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Call for proposals: The Kojolese Chancellery

Posted by Leowezy on 2 August 2017 in English (English)

Hey there fellow mappers!

I have a love-hate relationship with mapping buildings. On one hand, I love the feeling of scale and detail they give to a map. They are the first step in creating a city that is more than just a network of roads and rails. So what's to hate about them? Well, I'm no architect (surprise), and especially when it comes to representative buildings I continuously fail to produce anything that leaves me with a sense of satisfaction.

Currently I'm having trouble with the heart of the Kojolese government, the Gankakuchō so Hyosilwe. I redid that area recently, and now I'm struggeling to come up with a new building. To be fair, I've done everything to make the situation as complicated as possibly, and I wouldn't want to swap roles with the architects in 1990's Pyingshum.

I'll try to summarise the basic idea in a few key points:

  1. administration around the chancellor had been growing for decades, need for an adequate office space that could also be used for representative purposes became more and more urgent, however unfulfilled.

  2. A fire in 1984 (read more) puts a large area in central Pyingshum to ashes, killing hundreds of people. The event is a major disaster for the government of that time conspiracy theories have their heyday.

  3. The area is to be rebuilt, with a new Chancellery facing the Jōbun so Gúwan place. However, the building needs to be built in a way that it doesn't evoke the impression that it outshines the adjacent memorial park dedicated to the victims; yet it still needs to serve for state receptions and other representative events, while also providing the executive with much needed office space. A somewhat, contemporary feel shall be used.

So that's the situation the architects were stuck with; creating a a memorial park (the current version is not necessarily finished, but it should give an idea of the "rivalry" between the two poles in the area) that is not simply tucked away behind a monstrous government HQ but takes up a confident amount of space, while also keeping in mind that they shape the most prestigious city square of the nation, which must still appear timeless in 100 years.

I'm out of inspiration for building footprints, and would love to see some of your idea; whether it be a full-blown osm file covering the whole corner, or the literal sketch on the back of a napkin. I've sketched out the conflict of interest in a little bit more detail in the wiki articles above. Thanks to everyone participating!

~Leo

Comment from stjur on 2 August 2017 at 21:38

Hi! I sketched a little something, I hope it can help you somehow.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=17/41.62959/83.73012

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Comment from Luciano on 2 August 2017 at 23:47

I'm not sure how you would draw it on the map, but I have been intrigued by this idea for a long time:

Earthscraper

Maybe you don't have to do something quite so grandiose as 65 stories underground. However, there are real-world examples of substantial underground spaces in cities due to space constraints - I vaguely recall the Les Halles complex in Paris impressing me when I studied in Paris some decades ago, and of course Seoul, where I live, is FULL of underground shopping malls - sometimes you can WALK from subway station to subway station completely underground, and there are stores and offices everywhere.

Of course, I have no idea what the geology is in Pyingshum, which would impact what is possible.

But definitely think about going underground in some way, if you want to avoid "competing" with the memorial park - you get lots of space, but you could landscape the surface so it extends the park.

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Comment from tparigo on 3 August 2017 at 09:32

Hi,

This is a very interesting post. First of all, you have to choose the concept, the key idea that guided the reconstruction after the fire: a memorial park with governmental buildings or a governmental district with a memorial park? Answering this question will guide the whole reconstruction plan.

Then what did the Kojolese government and the city of Pyingshum wanted? * A car friendly area/a pedestrian area (this issue in the 1980ies was not what it is today!) * To keep or not to keep ruins? * Big footprint buildings? Smaller connected buildings? * A classical composition (symmetric…) or a more random composition? * Skyscrapers/no skyscrapers? * Traditionnal Kojolese style or international/modernist buidings? * New amenities for the city? Like a new concert hall or a new museum...

Try to answer all these questions and then the mapping should be easier.

Happy mapping!

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Comment from Leowezy on 3 August 2017 at 13:07

Thank you guys so much for your responses!

@stjur I really like this sketch! It does a great job in creating a building front, fitting alongside the road without to much undefined space, yet doesn't confront the memorial park next door. Would you generally be ok with me adopting that design in some way? For example I'm unsure about having the parking lot in front, and would probably move it to the back.

@Luciano That's definitely a very innovative idea worth considering. I think I've seen that picture sometime in the past as well. I think however that this approach wouldn't meet the architectural requirements of a government building in a democratic nation; to me it automatically evokes the image of a bunker where the political elite sets itself apart from the rest of the people.

@tparigo Those are very valid questions, and some have guided me in my failed attempts. I'll try to answer them where they aren't evident from the wiki;

Pyingshum is very pedestrian friendly, and this would also be valid for this area. Hoever of course high-level governemtn facilities alaways form an exception, and demand some specially secured parking spaced etc.

I thought it woul be nice to keep some ruins, and have mapped them in the memorial park. They form a kind of line of sight with the central memorial.

Most buildings would have been built in a similar manner than the surroundings, but again the Chancellery forms an exception.

So far I really like where stjur went with his design, I can see both state receptions at its front as well as common workers entering through the backdoor and it works quite well with the park. Of course I'm still eagerly waiting for other potential ideas, so don't hold back ;)

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Comment from Ūdilugbulgidħū on 3 August 2017 at 22:35

Here's an attempt... The offices are designed with a view onto the memorial park - so the politicians never forget. You could also consider a water feature along the edge of the park to serve partly as a security measure. CP round the back, a few internal garden spaces, main entrance opens onto a plaza near the ruins.

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Comment from stjur on 4 August 2017 at 06:33

@Leowezy Sure you can adopt this sketch and you can change it however you want, but I'd advise you to leave the parking lots where they are right now, because parking spaces are a huge problem in your city. This free site in front of the chancellery is located near a very important touristic and governmental hub, so tourists or politicians would pay anything to park there, which would be very profitable for the city. Also, what else would you imagine to have in front of such a big governmental building? (The Reichstag in Berlin in a tourist attraction, that's why it's surrounded by parks, but your building was built after 1984, which doesn't make it a tourist attraction.) I wouldn't advise you to try to turn your city into an urban utopia by making its appearance tourist-friendly everywhere, sometimes we have to think about what the city needs. (I learned this in my first year studying architecture in München.)

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