OpenGeofiction

Metropolitan Divisions

Posted by Portopolis on 11 November 2016 in English (English)

This is kind of a "fun" post to talk about metropolitan divisions which is usually an area of several suburbs (As in not counted as part of the main municipality) that have something in common whether income geography etcetera. It is kind of cool to divide a metro into things like that and truly no large metro unless one were the main city is absolutely dominating sort of like Houston, Texas were I live, or sprawl is equal in all general directions; don't have these divisions. Even in the Houston example their are regions that people normally group as slightly separate in the Houston area like Fort Bend County, Galveston County, Montgomery County's but these don't really count. Real World Examples- North Shore Chicago- wealthy towns on the lake north of Chicago. Best Southwest Dallas- A region of Dallas that is known mostly for it's high AA middle class. NOVA- Northern Virginia suburbs that have their own CBD's and while connected to D.C is an impressive area of multiple million people Main Line- Philadelphia (collection fo historically wealthy suburbs) etcetera. This isn't just an American concept it is just that America popped to my mind first. As you can see they vary in sizes from as little as 160,000 people (Best SW) to more than 3.5 million (NOVA).

Here are some named and unnamed OGF examples.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/20.4230/86.5541 South Gobras city Area- (unnamed) discussed this with indyroads???? or another mapper in the area a few months back that the economy while not solely based has a large amount of its GDP coming in from the grooming and breeding of horses.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/20.6872/86.9204 East Gobras city Area-(unnamed), it is just a cluster of suburbs east of Gobras not sure what they would be known for.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=11/18.8241/88.9934 Depending on the number of commuters the Marapura area and a few of the bordering suburbs can be called Gobrasi Khaiwoon or something.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/29.7288/122.4718 Pargiter-Misselthwaite- This area of Wiwaxia could be called something as it is in commuting distance of Wiwaxmouthe.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/36.1316/119.1189 Depending on Commuting patterns could be a metropolitan division of Pyingshum.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/-24.4595/124.2962 Several areas of VC that can become a division.

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=12/-3.0231/-2.4503 Quentinsburgh North- Don't know if this is named but the coast between these two cities could realistically be developed into a Jersey Shore like area of suburbs that grew between Vandover-Laneston and Quentinsburgh.

This is the best example of what an article would look like about this division. http://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/Troyan_Riviera

Comment from Easky30 on 11 November 2016 at 15:23

I love that original Gobras Ward map. I wish I took more screenshots as the city grew. It's really starting to develop like a real city.

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Comment from Leowezy on 11 November 2016 at 16:45

I like your examples (thanks for including Kahyuemguchi), but I'm not sure what your suggestion are? Indeed there are some commuters from neighbouring cities in the Pyingshum region commuting to the core, but that doesn't need to be relected in the administrative boundaries, there are even examples where the "poper city boundaries" only include a very small part of what we would perceive as one big urban blob, for example Paris. I'm probably missing your point though, could you elaborate?

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Comment from PColumbus73 on 11 November 2016 at 18:35

In Wustesonne, the Petersburgh and St. John's City function as twin cities, but smaller than the examples mentioned above. St. John's City is the nation's capitol city and Petersburgh as the nation's economic capital (compare to the Minneapolis-St. Paul area).

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Comment from Portopolis on 11 November 2016 at 21:44

Do you have a name for the metro area? For example you could do Twin Cities like in Minnesota or PB and J like DFW but with a twist on it or you could even do something unique to it's geography like Golden Horseshoe. You could also do something like Greater Petersburgh .

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Comment from Thunderbird on 12 November 2016 at 01:20

Very interesting. I was just admiring Gobras City!

It was mentioned that the Freedemian coast could be similar to the Jersey shore. I don't believe this is the case. Vandover, a city of 1.3 million and 24 square miles, would have to have at least a density of 55000 per square mile. To put this density in perspective, Manhattan has a density of 66000 per square mile.

So @Ernestpcosby can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Freedemian coast is significantly more populous than the Jersey shore and can be seen more as a megalopolis that happens to be built along the ocean.

My city, Patriot City is centralized around the city, but the wealthier suburbs will extend south along the river. The suburbs will end rather quickly in the western direction (10 to 15 miles), but I intend to map at least 20 to 30 miles of sprawl to the east.

As far as declared "divisions," since Patriot City is loosely based on Philadelphia, I will be using the system Pennsylvania and New Jersey use, read about this here, where every bit of land is incorporated within a specific City, Borough, or Township. Boroughs tend to be small town centers and Townships are generally larger in area but decentralized and either suburban or rural.

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Comment from PColumbus73 on 12 November 2016 at 14:34

@Portopolis : I've referred to the area as the PSJ, the Petersburgh International Airport code is PSJ as well. Similar to Minneapolis-St. Paul, Petersburgh pretty much gets most of the attention outside Wustesonne. Even domestically, people living in St. John's City accuse Petersburgh of stealing the spotlight.

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Comment from wangi on 14 November 2016 at 15:06

Easky, i've just updated the Gobras City map with current basemap... You're right, would be nice to have s few more in between to see the growth!

http://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/File:Gobras-city-neighbourhoods.png

Sep 2014 Sep 2014

Nov 2016 Nov 2016

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Comment from Ernestpcosby on 15 November 2016 at 07:13

As the creator of Freedemia :P I can say that both @Thunderbird and @Portopolis are right in a way about the Freedemian coast. The area @Portopolis pointed out is actually a place i hope to fill in with a dense "suburb" of sorts, probably an extention of Fort Elwood (I'm thinking maybe a city by the name of Southfort). I'm still filling in density in Haroldsborough, Fort Elwood, and Laneston/Vandover (as well as in Quentinsburgh/Mathersboro) so it may be a while before that comes to fruition. Now, as to @Thunderbird's point, It would have to be far more dense than the Jersey side of the shore (I was thinking more like the denser parts of the Brooklyn/Queens side). I do imagine the northwestern Freedemian Coast as a megalopolis, hopefully in some ways including Ciudad Nature of the Autonomous Province of Nature just over the border.

But @Thunderbird I actually was planning on writing a user diary about this- I've run into one big issue- I severely overestimated the size of my cities in design. I think I may have forgotten that I was looking at a scale in kilometers instead of miles. Looking now, Quentinsburgh, a city that is supposed to have a population approaching 5 million, is smaller in size than Raleigh, NC, a city with only about 400,000 people. In order to make that work, I'd need an IMMENSE amount of density, probably more than Manhattan, too much even for my global modern metropolis idea to work well. I'm thinking I'm going to have to make the areas surrounding Quentinsburgh far more dense, especially the areas including and surrounding Gillepsie, Meisler, Horizon Springs, Berkeley Ridge, Caroll Hill, Franklin Hill, Hinespoint, Mathersboro, Haroldsborough, etc. I may even have to create density all the way out to Cobble Point, Dogwood and Fort Franklin. This wasn't part of my original plan at all. But it may be interesting to see how it eventually plays out. On a side note, I think my subway network will grow greatly and my commuter rail network will expand exponentially if I make the rest of those areas more dense as it appears I'm going to have to.

I'll post a user diary in a couple minutes with pictures and such of what I mean.

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