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Elevation/altitude map of Řots

Posted by Rasmus Rasmusson on 30 August 2015 in Dutch (Nederlands)

Based on deltanz's elevation map of Neo Delta, I created a provisional one for Řots. Provisional, since I have four neighbours who may want to have a say in it - and this made me wonder if there is a way to contact several users all at once, or at least draw their attention all at once and then talk on e.g. the wiki talk pages?


Something else I noticed (which hasn't anything to do with the above), but some supermarkets were added to Řots's capital Nekkar without my knowledge or consent, so I removed them. Adding/changing things to/in Řots is always negotiable, but I'd like to be involved.

Het is me opgevallen dat er een paar supermarkten waren toegevoegd aan Nekkar, de hoofdstad van Řots, zonder dat ik daarvan afwist of daarvoor toestemming heb gegeven, dus ik heb ze weggehaald. Er kan altijd onderhandeld worden over het toevoegen/veranderen van dingen aan/van Řots, maar ik word daar graag bij betrokken.

J'ai remarqué que des supermarchés avaient été ajoutés à Nekkar, la capitale du Řots, sans ma connaissance ou mon accord, donc je les ai enlevé. On peut toujours négocier des changements/ajouts du/au Řots, mais j'aimerais en savoir.

Comment from deltanz on 31 August 2015 at 22:00

Wow, I loved your map! It looks very well drawn! Well, I agree with you about the process of creating elevation in a country, sorry I didn't talk to you before creating my map, I should have done that! I share the same doubt you have about contacting other people...

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Comment from Rasmus Rasmusson on 1 September 2015 at 06:08

No problem; for South-east Řots the adjacent ND elevation is more or less what I had in mind for that area.

Regarding contact it's not so much a doubt as a question if it can be done more quickly/easily if you want to ask the same question to e.g. all of your neighbours at once; the only possibility I see now is writing one text, copy-paste it into several individual messages and send it to the people concerned (which can lead to awkward situations if you forget e.g. to change the name of the person to whom you are writing). It would be easier if you could add multiple destinations to one message.

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Comment from clik on 1 September 2015 at 08:58

Hello, Both of the maps look very good ! Could you give a few details of the process to make them ? Thank you in advance.

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Comment from Rasmus Rasmusson on 1 September 2015 at 11:51

I'm not sure for Deltanz, but I simply copied his map, copy-pasted the map of Řots to it and added colours in Windows Paint, using the same colours as Deltanz. For quick maps like these, this is the simplest way. For more elaborate altitude maps, I use the vector program Inkscape.

The steps I took in Paint:

Copying an existing map (e.g. of a neighbouring country) and adding yours to it:

  • Right-click on the existing map and safe it somewhere easy to find on your computer

  • Open the map in Paint. Resize the page to make it bigger/to create more room to be able to add your own country (without selecting the map, otherwise it will resize as well), select the map and place it somewhere you'll know that your country won't be cut off if you add it to this page.

  • Open Paint a second time so that you have two working pages (in e.g. Word you can simply open multiple pages at the same time, but with Paint you actually have to open the program twice - at least, this is on my Vista computer; maybe the system has been improved since)

  • Go to the page of your country on OGF and zoom in or out until you have found the same scale (this is not always possible btw, but Deltanz probably did the same thing I did, also without changing any sizes, so in this case it worked)

  • Next: "print screen" (there's a key for that somewhere on your keybord); your entire computer screen has now been copied, you can paste it in the second (empty) page of Paint.

  • Select the part that you wish to use (i.e. your country) and copy this. Paste it in the first page of Paint and move it until it is situated where it should be (compare with the OGF map if you're not sure).

Now you have a large map containing your country and the original map you copied. You can also copy your country straight away without adding it to an existing map; this gives you more freedom to do what you want, but is less advantageous if you have a lot of neighbours whose altitudes have to match yours at the borders. For island nations this works fine.

Colouring the map

  • There is some kind of drop-tool in the Paint menu which you can use to select a precise colour of the original map. Use this to select one of the altitude colours. (I worked from high to low, so that I could see the infrastructure - roads, rivers etc. - as long as possible, as it is less likely that e.g. six lane highways will be constructed in a mountain range with an altitude of more than 4km, so that's the easiest way to work around that for the time being.)

  • Use the pen tool to draw the area that has the chosen altitude (using the selected colour) and make sure the beginning and the end of the line connect with themselves or with another colour that can act as the border of the area.

  • Use the fill tool to fill the designated area with the selected colour. If you notice that not all areas/pixels are coloured, then you can use the fill tool more often for the remaining areas. Sometimes it won't work, because there are too many colour differences (even if you don't see them with the naked eye), so then you have to use the pen tool later to give the remaining pixels the right colour (this is one extremely tedious step I haven't done yet in my map, pending approval by my neighbours ;-) )

  • Repeat these steps until you have reached the coast; then your map should be ready.

Inkscape is far more complex, so if no tutorial isn't ready to read somewhere yet, I could make one, but that will take a lot more time..

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Comment from clik on 1 September 2015 at 15:02

Thank you very much for that tutorial ! I've already done a detailed paper map of the relief of my country and I'm going to make a computer version more official with paint. Even if we're not neighbours we can use the same colours, and invite the other users to do so.

Thank you again :-).

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Comment from Leowezy on 1 September 2015 at 15:28

Thanks Rasmus, I've created the following map according to your guidelines: http://opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/File:Hoehenkarte_I.png

Thanks from me as well, and if any neighbours of mine would want to object/validate the above map, please contact me! Cheers.

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Comment from clik on 1 September 2015 at 15:39

Looks like we'll soon be able to make a world map according to your maps ! I'm gonna try to make mine as soon as possible.

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Comment from deltanz on 1 September 2015 at 16:29

Great tutorial, Rasmus, I couldn't have said it better! I would be great to have a map like that for every country!

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Comment from Rasmus Rasmusson on 1 September 2015 at 17:04

Thanks for the compliments; the Kojo map looks good!

I'm just wondering now if nobody else created similar maps before us on OGF; I can hardly imagine that we are the first!

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Comment from clik on 1 September 2015 at 17:29

There is also the very interesting map of Chara, from Danny11. http://opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/File:Chara_terrain_map.png

Elevation map of Egani : work in progress, 40%

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Comment from Rasmus Rasmusson on 1 September 2015 at 17:37

Very nice indeed! Eventually, I have something like this in mind for Řots as well, but that will take a while - and I won't start with that until the provisional one has been finalised :)

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Comment from Ernestpcosby on 1 September 2015 at 18:18

I was not the one who placed the supermarkets, but Freedemia does have several supermarkets looking to expand, primarily All-n-One (see wiki) and Franklin's (see wiki). Please let me know if you are interested. :) We are also looking for more companies (especially car dealerships, pharmaceutical companies, supermarkets, department stores, etc)

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Comment from Leowezy on 2 September 2015 at 12:55

Wow, your Egani map looks really amazing :D i think I will go back to my elevation map and mark the major cities as well xD

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Comment from Rasmus Rasmusson on 3 September 2015 at 11:40

Wow, this is becoming a nice series. I added the category Elevation map to each map.

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Comment from Easky30 on 4 September 2015 at 11:38

These elevation maps look amazing. I will have to make on for Orinoco soon.

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