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Errors uploading in josm

Posted by Icefur2 on 31 January 2022 in English (English).

When I try to upload my edits from josm, it says this: “Failed to delete node __. It is still referred to by way ____. Please load the way, remove the reference to the node, and upload again.”

Might have messed up st agnes

Posted by hhg1405 on 29 January 2022 in English (English).

Hey everyone, I’m a casual mapper who decided to click on the list of 952 issues with my preferred region of Sainte Agnès (Ardencia). Ever since then, the Passage de Matchicoumi body of water has disappeared, and the surrounding area experiences major flooding errors.

Here is what I think happened. Among the unconnected paths and the overlapping roads, there was also ‘outdated tags’ and ‘missing role’. Now, as I said, I am a casual mapper, meaning I have no idea what relations are or what tags do. So, determined to shorten the list of issues with the region, I upgraded the tags of the coastlines and gave the line of an island (île de Mars) the role of ‘outer’ in relation to water. I had no idea what any of this meant, but I did it hoping to cut down on that issues list. Ever since, bodies of water have disappeared and solid land becomes water on different zoom levels.

So, my point is, I think I screwed up, unless this is a bug that will go away with time or maintenance. Either way, It would be great if a more experienced mapper went and checked on the situation so I don’t end up destroy another mapper’s hard work by making their body of water disappear.

Coords approx ‘-44.7505,153.8511’.



No renders at all on many areas

Posted by Eevee on 6 January 2022 in English (English).


Recently I’ve been more active on OGF and hadn’t really seen how well the new OGF works. Lately it’s been quite annoying as it seems that my country (Eelanti) isn’t rendered at all on some zoom levels (levels 15-20). The only way to get the map to render seems to be to actually look at the areas on the map with different zoom levels (even Ctrl+F5 does nothing instantly) and maybe do some refreshes and come back later. It’s also kind of annoying to see all the “Error: no tiles at this zoom level” messages on JOSM and not being able to view areas that I’ve mapped before the new servers/OGF.

Is there any other solution to this than try to open all the mapped areas on different zoom levels and maybe do some refreshes? Of course new edits will also help in small scale but not for other areas. I’ve also noticed that the renderer seems to be slower than on OSM while on the old OGF the renderer seemed faster than OSM (at least close).

NOTE: If you try to look at my country, I’ve gotten most of the more detailed areas to render now (at least on some of the missing zoom levels) so it’s a bit less obvious now. I also know that it takes time for new edits to show up. I’m talking about edits that are 2-4 years old.

Thanks in advance and happy mapping!


Christism in OGF

Posted by Anonymous21 on 26 December 2021 in English (English).

My yet-to-be-named country (UL22f, if anyone’s curious) is going to be an area highly influenced by Christism (it’s modeled after Nordic countries, particularly Norway and Sweden), especially throughout its history. I’m wondering what different Christic denominations there are in OGF and what they roughly parallel in the real world. Here’s what I know of so far. If you could fill in the blanks or add/correct anything else on this list of Christic denominations that would be great:

  • Darcodian Church ~ RW (Roman) Catholic Church
  • Ortholic Church ~ RW (“Eastern”) Orthodox Church or Catholic Church?
  • Church of Ingerland ~ RW Anglican Church/Church of England
  • Apostolic Churches ~ A catch-all for the many RW Protestant National Churches, particularly in Western Europe
  • Puritism ~ RW Puritanism?
  • Reformatic Church ~ A rough imitation of RW Lutheranism or Protestantism generally?
  • Esquisitic/Usquesitic Church ~ Sounds like the RW Mormon/LDS Church potentially?
  • Mauroi Church ~ A localized branch of RW Orthodox (or Coptic?) Christianity?
  • Ekelan Church ~ Another RW Orthodox Church?

Additionally, there will be some influence from other religions in my country as well. Are there any OGF imitations of:

  • Judaism
  • Islam
  • Hinduism
  • Buddhism

Thanks so much for your help!

P.S. I don’t want a long discussion about religion (nobody would ever fight about it, right?), just help on identifying different religious groups in the OGFiverse.

Let's go to the beach

Posted by Leowezy on 19 December 2021 in English (English).

Contrary to the current mood (at least here in cold and Omicron-struck central Europe), I’d like to invite you for a short holiday trip; for a less cringy message, see below.

Let’s start by grabbing something to eat at a newly opened breakfast-cafe in edgy Óram’uel. From there, we can walk into the old town and join the masses of less trendy tourists posing for selfies in front of the Opera and buying cheap plastic souvenirs around the Zoésora Temple.

After wandering around the Ballet Theatre and the Museum of the Oceans at the new, modernesque harbour front, we take take the Metro Line 2, which follows the course of the oldest railway in all of Kojo, to an exquisite beach-side neighbourhood named after the two things that make it and the city great: the sun and the coast. Here, we join the high (and less-so-high) society of the city in sunbathing and swimming for a little while. Afterwards, we can take an Express bus back to our Hostel in the studenty Ōnagara neighbourhood. Every street bustles with cafes and restaurants, with little Boutiques as well as chain pharmacies. After a quick shower and nap, we are ready to head back out again.

As we walk south, the quirky vibe is replaced by a more sophisticated atmosphere in posh Thurn et Sasó. The Fóskiman Chigai-Showugan, Kojo’s most renown art museum (unless you ask people from the capital), is impressive enough from the outside, so we disdain its treasures and instead go for a picnic in the green lung of the city. Although dedicated to the Revolutionists of 1834, nowadays it is a source of tranquillity and chill for the Finkyásenians, who sometimes, between work, study, loud traffic and long summer nights, need to force themselves for a brief pause.

Further east, we find the old royal palace where the De Croix family resided, who ruled the city before said revolution. With the sun in our back we now stroll along the Kōto, where expensive jewellery, high-end restaurants and exclusive hotels allow us to imagine what our trip could be like if we weren’t on a budget.

We start discussing what our options are for later tonight. Someone suggests heading to Hikárem for a couple of cheap cocktails at the beach and maybe some mainstream chart party later. Our pocket guide recommends Rόng’yeda, a more peripheral but very in-and-coming area to the north-west, to check out the cool Indy bars there and keep our eyes and ears open for the weekly techno raves in the industrial area next to the highway. A little more laid-back but no less entertaining option would be going for close-by Kaerí, the biggest hotspot of the city’s vibrant LGBT*-scene. But in the end, we let a promoter from the street convince us otherwise. An hour later we find ourselves on a not too small, yet intimate vessel on the Shimjur, where we sip a beer while watching the old town on one and the uptight Dóman-neighbourhood on the other side sparkling through the warm night.

Now as you can see, I’m not exactly born a poet. However I hope I managed to animate some of you to browse through Finkyáse, perhaps even the many parts I cannot come up with creative story-telling to include them into this short trip. The impetus to write this diary entry is that the city now feels “finished” to me, something I can otherwise only say about Arákkanai and Tinglyū. Obviously it is not “finished” in the sense that it is mapped to a level of detail found on well-mapped areas in OSM or OGF; but the mapping is detailed enough for me, as the creator, to feel like I was able to give every neighbourhood its own story and character. Whether I am able to get these ideas across to you as a spectator is something I would really like to hear you guys’ feedback on - the mapping part, not the novel-writing, obviously ;).

If you are interested in some more background information about the city, the old wiki still has the city’s diary entry up and running. Especially the public transportation network and the city’s history is explained in more detail there. Feel free to let me know what images the city evokes in you; is it different from my write-up above? What areas are you unsure about? How do you think I can further improve my mapping? Looking forward to hearing from some of you.

Enclosing Features Query Error

Posted by Anonymous21 on 15 December 2021 in English (English).

So I’ve noticed that the in-map query feature (for a specific location) isn’t showing enclosing boundaries. For example, if I query anywhere on this view, the query results will show no enclosing features. However, if you zoom out, you can see that there are actually two boundaries that enclose this area: the country boundary UL22f and the city/municipal boundary Viskestads Kommun.

From trying this out, it seems like this feature hasn’t updated: areas that were in the country boundary before I edited the border here still will get the country returned on the query. However, newly added areas aren’t showing it (it’s been a couple of days since I edited these borders) even though they are inside the relation.

Any suggestions or help?


JOSM won't start up after Java update.

Posted by Marcello on 9 December 2021 in Dutch (Nederlands).

Yesterday I was prompted for a Java update, which I did. Now, however, JOSM won’t start anymore and gives the message that javaws.exe, which is used in starting JOSM, has been changed or moved. That’s a first after a Java update, so I’m lost for now. Anyone have an idea ?

I have Win10, the latest JOSM - and the latest Java (well, er, I think…).

thanks in advance,


town disappears at higher zoom levels

Posted by waffledogefern on 4 December 2021 in English (English).

So for my first edit here I tried making a layout for a small town that I would eventually expand. I made it here, and if you zoom in at 200 meters specifically, it works. Any other zoom, it doesn’t; the town just disappears.

I don’t recall doing anything funny with tags, I just setup some roads and areas and then put the town label on the map using the guide on the old wiki. I used place:village.


JOSM OGF loading issue

Posted by Ilthracna on 30 November 2021 in English (English).

Hello, I have recently came back to using Josm and decided to update to the newest version (18303) and found that the data downloading from OGF and imagery does not work. Though I have added the imagery according to the Wiki article, during download, the layer just shows red crosses. I also followed the wiki about the server connections for data downloading, whenever I download something, the result is an area with no data. I have tested multiple areas of download, and they all result in the same result. Image: screenshot Edit because of image not working originally

I need a break.

Posted by AnimationSky on 26 November 2021 in English (English).

Hello all,

I just wanted to inform you that I need to take a short hiatus from OGF. Times have been really rough around here and I can’t do this regularly anymore. I don’t feel comfortable sharing most of the details, and the story is still developing, but we’re having legal issues right now inside my family, and that along with school has put me under high stress. I don’t know when this will end, but I just know that I need some time and space from everything. I may still be available to contact for the time being, but don’t count on it.

Best Regards, -Sky

JOSM won't load data

Posted by sjk23 on 22 November 2021 in English (English).

When I download map data on JOSM I can get the background image of the map but it keeps coming up saying “No data in this area” even though there is mapping there?

Collab launch: Castellán

Posted by Martinawa on 9 November 2021 in Spanish (Español).

Estoy encantado de anunciar que Castellán va a empezar su andadura como proyecto colaborativo, para crear una nueva madre patria para el idioma Español (castellanés) en OGF. El debate acerca de este nuevo proyecto va a tener lugar en los foros de la wiki, mediante los cuales podéis acceder, si no lo habéis hecho todavía, mandando un mensaje privado a Alessa (Preferentemente, en inglés).

Esta es la página de la collab en la wiki, donde podréis ver un resumen del estado del territorio. Esta es la página del foro en la wiki sobre Castellán, donde podéis enviar dudas, sugerencias, o discutir sobre los temas relevantes acerca de Castellán.

Todos estáis invitados a participar de este proyecto para hacer de Castellán un lugar remarcable en el mapa de OGF.

I am excited to announce that Castellan is going to launch as a collaborative territory, with the goal of making a new motherland for the Spanish language (Castellanese) in OGF. The discussion about this newborn project will take place on the wiki forums, which you can access, if you haven’t yet, sending a private message to Alessa.

This is the wiki collab page, where you will be able to see a summary of the state of the territory. This is the wiki thread page for the Castellán collab, where you can send doubts, suggestions, or discuss about the relevant topics regarding the country.

I encourage you to participate on this project to make Castellán a remarkable place on the OGF map.

Happy Mapping, Martinawa, on behalf of all Castellán coordinators.

Location: Campo de Criptana, Ciudad Real, Castilla-La Mancha, 13610, España

On fictional shibboleths

Posted by Luciano on 4 November 2021 in English (English).

A “shibboleth” is a word or name that locals know how to pronounce but that outsiders or visitors don’t know about.

One excellent example of a real-world geographic shibboleth from my personal experience: when I first moved to Philadelphia (I lived there from 1995-1998), I had no idea that when locals said “Skookle” they meant “Schuykill” - as in the Schuyill River and parallel Schuykill Expressway. Another example is more subtle, but important: you can tell the outsiders in the the US Western states by how they pronounce the name of the state of Nevada. Westerners (and, specifically, Nevadans) pronounce the name of their state /nəvædə/, while outsiders (particularly Easterners and Brits) generally pronounce it closer to /nəvɑdə/, or else they make the mistake of assuming it deserves a fully etymological Spanish pronunciation, and render it as /nebada/. It is jarring on US TV shows like the old “CSI Las Vegas” when supposed locals mispronounce their state’s name.

Another interesting shibboleth from my current locale, is the tribal and cultural name Tlingit. This is the most numerous Native American group in Southeast Alaska, and is still a living and dynamic language community, too. When I first came here, I had no idea what people were talking about when they talked about “Klinkit” - turns out everyone (including the natives themselves) pronounce the name of the tribe and language this way. I guess under the influence of English, the /tl/ cluster of the language has evolved to one easier for English speakers: /kl/.

Anyway, the question I have for all of you is: what shibboleths exist in your OGF territory?

Makaska is full of little shibboleths, mostly due to the early exploration and naming by the Franquese, and then subsequent mispronunciation of those Franquese names by the Ingerish-speaking later settlers. This is meant to parallel the US West and Midwest, which is full of such “bad French” place names: Des Moines (“Duh Moin”!), Boise (“Boizy”!), etc.

Some important shibboleths in Metro Ohunkagan (map) include the following:

  • Xaintrailles (neighborhood on the northside, major arterial street): pronounced “Zen Trail”
  • Jonnequiel (the airport, former Army fort, southside): pronounced “Junk Heel”
  • Jonquiere (the road): actually the same name as Jonnequiel, just spelled different, but pronounced the same, “Junk Heel”, or sometimes “Junker”
  • Vrijheid (a hill, and arterial road in the northwest): pronounced “Freehide” (which reflects a kind of awareness but distortion of the Lentian meaning, “freedom”)
  • Aeschlimann (a neighborhood and street in southside Hotanka Peninsula): pronounced “Eeshle-min”
  • Le Maingre (a neighborhood, street and horseracing track, southside): rhymes with “anger”
  • Marony (the small lake at downtown, the canal, the original name for the southside, “Fort Marony”): rhymes with “macaroni”
  • Most oldtimers call the southside “Fort”, and the northside is called “Town”
  • Nobody local pronounces Iyotanhaha fully - it’s simply called “Iyo”
  • Robeyns (neighborhood in south Iyo): pronounced “Robins”

Happy onomastics!

JOSM 18303

Posted by ADB52 on 4 November 2021 in English (English).

Since downloading the latest release of JOSM (18303), it returns bug warnings and does not load a number of plug-ins that are actually fairly useful. I have filed a bugreport to the compilers, but was wondering if anybody else had similar experiences.

Is it worthwhile reverting to an earlier release of JOSM?

Thank you everyone!

Posted by Luciano on 4 November 2021 in English (English).

We had unexpected longer downtime last night and this morning.

The render server had some problem (not really clear what went wrong), and needed to be restored from backup (not part of the plan), and then the ogf-carto render was reset (which had been the plan).

Just want to say thank you to the community for your patience.

Those who have been struggling with “render ghosts” - I think they are all fixed now. You can see one really good example here:


For comparison, the ogf-topo render still has the ghosts (yes, topo needs maintenance work, I know!):


UPDATE: by the way, Happy mapping!

Boundary Relations

Posted by 幼馴染のツンデレ on 1 November 2021 in English (English).

Hello all! I was wondering what admin level a city district would be? Examples would be like Naka Ward in Yokohama.

Slippy Map in JOSM

Posted by indyroads on 29 October 2021 in English (English).

I have noticed that since migration the minimap viewer in JOSM is no longer displaying the slippy map. it just shows the tile placeholders instead. I am wondering if I just have an incorrect setting in the preferences. Any help would be appreciated.


Posted by Prem on 24 October 2021 in English (English).

Hello everyone. I remember seeing somewhere a while ago that you could make mountains with tinfoil and then use some plugin to put it on JOSM, in order to make the mountain in OGF. Could someone explain how to do that?

Failed on Downloading Data in JOSM

Posted by pzs111111 on 23 October 2021 in English (English).

I’m trying to start editing through JOSM, but it always fails to download the data…

The error message was :”Failed to upload data to or download data from ‘,2.8436768,160.4227551,2.9013968’ due to a problem with transferring data. Details (untranslated): Read timed out”

Do you guys have any idea where the problem is, and how should I solve it?Thanks.

Leaving the site

Posted by John1985 on 18 October 2021 in English (English).

Dear members of the OGF:

After several years as a member of this site I am now departing from a full time role as a member as I now focus on real life work as a baseball player, preparing to train harder to play in Major League Baseball in the United States of America

I am thankful to all of you whose work inspired me to be better in mapping and whose experiences are now inspiring me on my real life activities.

To all, thanks for letting me be a full time part of this site. I hope for the best for OGF for the years to come.