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I'm opening my country for all mappers

Posted by Mike's World on 4 November 2019 in English (English)

Hi everyone, I have been thinking lately about how to make Crenru a better country, and the answer came, it could be you guys. Are there any rules about opening your country to other mappers?

If I can open up my country to other mappers I just have a few rules,

-Names should be Australian themed. Ex. "Woomera St." insted of "Washington St."

-The cars drive on the left side of the road.

-Follow the culture, government etc. of Crenru, for instance they don't play American football, so don't add football stadiums. Crenru is a parlimentary republic, which has a prime minister and a president. For more information click the link. (If I have some mistakes on the government, let me know) https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/Crenru

-Small towns should go in the sparce desert region while bigger towns would be blooming into urban areas around the coast.

-One last note is I'll be changing the flag once I have the appropriate software

Thats all for now, let me know if there's any questions or things I need to know.

-Mike

Comment from andrepoiy on 4 November 2019 at 02:25

Uh, I don't think that's how it works...

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Comment from Mike's World on 4 November 2019 at 02:45

I was wondering about that. Guess it would be collaborative if that happened. I’ll probably just keep mapping on my own.

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Comment from austinhuang on 4 November 2019 at 02:58

Opening an entire territory to everyone just to "make [it] a better country" is beyond irresponsible.

  • You could study examples on OpenStreetMap or other great cities on OGF!
  • You could slow down and think in more detail! Quality over quantity!
  • You could actually implement feedbacks you got from User Diaries!

You might as well consider ceding the territory (In fact, many mappers do so when they consciously lose confidence in their own territory, see Balonis), re-practice in blue territories, then re-request a territory. Yet you just throw the job to others while still holding this territory trying to take advantage of others' work. Yes, this comment sounds offensive, but in China, we say: "Good medicine can taste bitter; similarly, good advice can be hard to hear."

btw, quote: "My grades in school have be going down because I map instead of doing homework." Look, Rome isn't built in one day, so maybe even a neighbourhood a week is better than rushing through and skipping through your education...

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Comment from Luziyca on 4 November 2019 at 03:15

As someone who considered doing that with my very first territory when I got tired of mapping such a big territory, before abandoning it altogether, austinhuang's comment is the best advice that you will get on the matter.

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Comment from zhenkang on 4 November 2019 at 04:20

It was also similar for Singkangia last time. I decided to totally abandon it and map in Antigo, and after a year after I gained more mapping experience I decided to get my own nation with a bit unique culture not yet in OGF.

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Comment from wangi on 4 November 2019 at 13:19

As regional admin I have given you significant feedback, along with exploring alternative ways & territories for you to improve your mapping.

You will not be opening up this territory to general, or collaborative, mapping by other users.

L

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Comment from Mike's World on 4 November 2019 at 20:51

Thanks ya'll for the advice. Im sorry for the rash descision to any who thought I'm running a monarchy in a parlimentary republic country.

I'm rushing because I don't want to be filling in Crenru by 2030, I've got a life and a big future ahead of me, like college and it'll probably fade away under busier priorities.

Crenru is so small on the world scale, yet so big to map it would take me years to move on. So I'm in a "limbo" state.

Also sorry if I've been a bad listener to anybody. It's a bad habit I have and I know it's irritating, so I'll try my best to change that and comply to any helpful tips or options.

Please forgive

Mike

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Comment from zhenkang on 5 November 2019 at 07:15

Hmm then why dont consider shrinking crenru and/or changing the nation altogether? By the way some users also suffer and struggle to cope with the fact that their nation seem too large for them yet does not impact the world in any way on the global scale. Thats ok; not all nations need to be relevant. What matters more is that you enjoy mapping it and developing it, as being able to cooperate with others in the region. If you dont and have trouble cooperating, its likely you should consider changing it totally.

Anyway, OGF is a lifelong and lifetime project (as long as it exists). Whatever and wherever you map will stick with you until the day you leave OGF.

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Comment from zhenkang on 5 November 2019 at 07:17

And also probavby the fact you need to change your attitude sometimes. Even if you move elsewhere, you will stay face difficultues cooperating if you are not able to.

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Comment from coshatiuav on 5 November 2019 at 15:04

It's true how big you eventually realise your country is, but you don't have to fully develop your country to every town and farm - that's not the main purpose of OGF. What I see so far actually looks decent and on par with most other OGF places. So I would say focus small: work on a few impressive areas that you can direct people to. Just a note - we're actually a bit concerned people are splitting territories too finely.

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Comment from wangi on 5 November 2019 at 15:55

"Just a note - we're actually a bit concerned people are splitting territories too finely"

And you are, with 24 edits, concerned. That's good. Sorry, not you - "we".

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Comment from plainoldbread on 5 November 2019 at 21:19

Here's a quick suggestion: Restart your country and start with some sort of plan or a place your territory is inspired by. For example, my territory Nipewa is based off of Southern and central Ontario. You find that and build your country around it, if you're taking inspiration from Australia then start with looking at the outback and the highways connecting them, see if they're actually highways or just normal roadways.

Just a quick suggestion.

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Comment from iiEarth on 6 November 2019 at 03:52

Partially agreeing with plainoldbread, map some very simple highways in the Outback-inspired regions, but don't map too many highways— don't focus too much on 'high-tier' roads. Look at Australian cities— big and small, for inspiration.

@plainoldbread If FSA is USA-inspired, why are you basing Nipewa off of Canada?

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Comment from suburbandecay on 6 November 2019 at 09:46

G'day Mike, Others have given you some really good suggestions here, and I'm not convinced it would be fair for me, a relative newbie, to offer too much in the way of advice. However, what I do have is a couple of decades life experience in Australia, so I do have a few comments to make about making the most out of your Australian inspiration.

  • Australia's population density is concentrated around the coast, particularly the east coast, and of our few cities, they very much suffer from suburban sprawl. The area you've mapped around Diamond Coast nails that perfectly, although I'd consider downgrading the other cities to either town or suburb level.
  • Concurring with @iiEarth above with respect to highways. Most remote and rural roads would barely constitute anything above a primary level; generally two lanes wide, possibly with sections for overtaking on long stretches, and usually undivided. Motorways are rare outside of the cities, but there are some exceptions to this. Consider using trunk routes to large settlements outside of Diamond Coast, and primary (and lower) routes elsewhere.
  • Avoid using grids - outside of city centres, most suburbs look more like Creekside and less like Banega.

Take all of this with your discretion, especially since you're not recreating the real world country but merely using it as your inspiration.

All the best with your promising nation! Jay

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Comment from plainoldbread on 7 November 2019 at 02:01

@iiEarth There isn't really an OGF Canada, and I know more about Ontario than the US, so I based it off of that.

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Comment from LemonKing on 9 November 2019 at 11:28

For general interest, back to the original question "Are there any rules about opening your country to other mappers?"

There are currently four unofficial collaboratives listed in this wiki article. These are one-sidedly declared by the owners. No special permission seems to be needed for adding new ones to the list. The article points out that there are requirements for official collaboratives, indirectly implying that for unofficial ones there are none.

However, these are sidepaths in the community and don't seem to be very popular. I think they can only work if users involved trust and respect one another and are fine with the fact that the owner (as long as he/she is considered the owner by admin) has unlimited rights to the territory. Personally I have done some mapping in Vinnmark (with explicit, limited permission), but I prefer and recommend more localized collaboration projects, like the Triple city of Gaffelsbyen.

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