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Gobrassanya Capital Development

Posted by indyroads on 26 July 2014 in English (English)

See http://opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/Gobrassanya for the current list of Gobrassanya Districts and Capitals

This thread will remain for the purpose of discussing capital development in Gobras City

Comment from indyroads on 27 July 2014 at 04:45

Comments on road development in Gobrassanya Motorway numbering. East-West Motorways that predominantly run the length of the country are given single digit numbers (A-2, ... A-4, A-5 ... A-9). North-South Motorways (or motorways that cross the land from coast to coast) are predominantly number as 2-digit motorways (e.g. A-10, ... A-30, A-35, A-40, ... A-60, ... A-80, ... etc) and additiional numbers should be able to fall in between as best as possible as more motorways are added. A-1 is the main principal motorway and runs the length of the country from Northwest to Southeast. There is not odd or even rule with the Gobrassanya Motorway numbering.

Additionally more development is needed with the national route system (primary and secondary roads) There is no official scheme for national route numbers except that duplicate route numbers are not allowed.

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Comment from Easky30 on 27 July 2014 at 22:57

Puerto Geo is the district capital for Arrowic. http://opengeofiction.net/#map=17/19.33766/86.01210

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Comment from indyroads on 28 July 2014 at 03:52

Creation of the capital City is underway. Roadways radiating away from the capitol are named after the various districts. The capitol building is created and located at the center of Kilometer Square. Various ministry departments have been created and are located in the blocks surrounding the capitol grounds. the block size for the street grid is 125m with major strets planned on the 1 to 1.5 km blocks

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Comment from wangi on 28 July 2014 at 14:18

Ok if I add tram & subway tying in to the Km Square?

And the square is essentially a big roundabout, all traffic counter-clockwise?

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Comment from indyroads on 28 July 2014 at 15:50

Yes originally I had dual traffic but thought it would be easier to make it all travel counterclockwise. with bypassing traffic travelling on the inside part of the square.

Feel free to develop the subway systems for the city.

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Comment from indyroads on 28 July 2014 at 16:12

I changed my mind back to Two way traffic on the Km Sq

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Comment from wangi on 28 July 2014 at 16:38

Rough subway lines 1 & 2 added - will refine the stations and put something tram based on the other sides of the square

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Comment from Boge on 28 July 2014 at 19:41

@indyroads: Maybe you could build a motorcycle factory within the City of Davidson.

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Comment from Kalh79 on 29 July 2014 at 10:08

I would like to do a proposal, renumber the Northcoast Highway... What number do you propose??
The route would be from Gautig to Loonawarra exchange (A-1).

My proposal is:

Renumber as A-3.

Renumber the A-71 motorway as A-7 and the A-7 route to Artana as A-70.

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Comment from indyroads on 29 July 2014 at 21:57

I would say Go ahead with the renumbering of Existing A-71 as A-7 since it would be a more direct path and follows the rule of traversing the length of the country. the current A-7 from the junction east r Fruelhlen to Artana could become A-70 as you propose as well. those are all logical renumberings. A-71 will no longer exist as a motorway.

A 3 was created as the central coastal motorway between Gobras City and i think eventually Laguna and beyond it has also a proposed motorway to the west traversing the southern portions of the Arcois District and volantia District. but is yet not constructed. The portion of A-3 between Gobras City and Arcois District would be signed only as A 1 since it is a very long length of cosigned motorway.

To better understand are you wanting to move the A-1 motorway strictly to the coast replacing A-2 and the new segment of A-3 and use A-3 further inland to replace A-1... This is doable. However the A-1 route is really designed to be the best and most direct route along the northern side of the length of the country , and specifically does not meander along the coast. However A-3 could also be extended southward to replace A-7 through Laguna as well leaving A-1 assigned to the primary principal motorway as originally intended.

If we do move A-1 to the north coast or extend A-3 southward to replace A-7 I would like to see a bridge across Artana Bight to make the routing more straight since the bight is not very far across.

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Comment from indyroads on 29 July 2014 at 23:04

OIk after looking thing sover some more.

A70 to be extended north to subsume A7 to Artana Bight Crossing

A7 to be rerouted on to A71 ending in Laguna

A3 to be extended across Artana Bight to subsume A-7 from the Artana Bight crossing thru Laguna and Loonawarra meaning A701 would become A703

A1 to remain as is.

(Or A3 and A1 swap places from Artana to Loonawarra) sonce A-1 would still remain connecting Major cities ... North of Artana however it would remain on its existing alignment.

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Comment from Kalh79 on 30 July 2014 at 06:51

Regarding A-3 subsume A-7, A-70 subsume A-7 and A-1 would still remain connecting Major cities ,I agree with you.

However, I also propose that A-3 motorway subsume A-2 from Gobras City to Gautig (along the coast), connecting with A-1 in Gautig.

The route A-3 motorway would be: Gautig - Gobras City - Artana - Laguna - Loonawarra

The route A-2 motorway would be: Gobras City - Margenson - Blumouth

What is your opinion??

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Comment from wangi on 30 July 2014 at 09:41

Talking about Motorways... perhaps could reduce the number in the central area of Gobras City? I was thinking that:

  • Western A2 merges on to Lhatghaver Avenue or Arcois Ave after the A101 junction
  • Eastern A3 merges on to Freedom Blvd after the A101 junction
  • A1 as is
  • Southern A2 terminates at the A1 junction
  • A60 terminates at the A1 junction
  • No A3 or A2 through the city centre

The current motorway cut through the grid is then freed up for heavy rail lines & a central station?

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Comment from indyroads on 30 July 2014 at 12:09

A2 is a through route and cannot be truncated

A3 could be truncated or rerouted to A1 east of the city instead via the northern section of A101 possibly. A60 could be truncated or left as a spur into the downtown connector.

Or reminiscent of "the big dig' we could place A2/A3 into a tunnel under the downtown grid and also place part of A60 in a tunnel to allow for rail lines to be run. This would be preferential since it would not sever these connections and would remove the barrier the motorways create.

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Comment from wangi on 30 July 2014 at 15:29

Okay, looking at it with the changes you've already made...

  • Move A1 Northern Mway onto / along the Constitution Blvd alignment (it could be frontage roads)
  • Terminate A3 at the A101 junction (make it freeflow A3-A101); remove the west A3 spur

Would give the grid a bit of space and align the motorways a bit more it it, rather than the other way round

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Comment from indyroads on 3 August 2014 at 04:40

International airport. the people mover cannot be connected to the outer terminal trains since pre and post security cannot be mixed. the people mover is only for passengers that have cleared security only.

Terminal roadways have been redrawn to alow access from a circulator road which simplifies the design and allows better access from both directions.

Parking will soon be constructed alongside the terminal buildings along with a consolidated rental car facility.

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Comment from indyroads on 3 August 2014 at 16:32

I would like to propose that Harley ave be converted into a texas freeway and frontage to connect the Airport freeway to A 65 to the south. Any thoughts.

I would also like to propose that 55 be renumbered as A65 and the remaining portion of existing A65 west of this point be numberes as A55

the airport freeway could be given the designation of A 265 or A 201, A 401, A 601 or A 801, etc

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Comment from wangi on 3 August 2014 at 16:54

The connections on the people mover were "spur" or "siding" - i.e. just for maintenance and access to yard in the east of the airport site.

Agree on Harley, i'll work on that.

L/

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Comment from indyroads on 4 August 2014 at 13:44

Since A55( former A65 was downgraded to a standard Primary highway it has been relabeled as national route 25 and the interchange reconstructed to favor through traffic along A-65 (current) Hwy 25 could at some point be upgraded to a motorway or trunk road again in the future if warranted.

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Comment from wangi on 6 August 2014 at 00:23

I've just done (most of) Oziato Plains - a suburban community within Gobras City. I was thinking this could be the general pattern for the suburban development. It's based on the 125*125m grid with the main (secondary) street 2km apart - they stay basically straight and more than likely are divided highways. Roughly at the 1km mark you have tertiary roads, which bend and move with the terrain. And at the 500m marks (very approx) you’ve got unclassified roads that also connect into neighbouring squares. All other roads within the 2*2 square are residential and not through connected. Insert parks, schools, facilities to fit... And probably at least one rail or subway station per square.

The tertiary's should be flanked by cycleways (to do).

(modelled on Calgary)

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Comment from indyroads on 7 August 2014 at 16:37

Yeah that is a good idea. but closer into the city the blocks should conform to the 1X1 km or 1/2X1 km blocks

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Comment from wangi on 8 August 2014 at 01:03

Well, the 1km grid still there, it's just softened somewhat. Anyway, I was thinking of this for outside the 101 Ring.

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Comment from wangi on 8 August 2014 at 01:14

Not think a capital city would have the airport rail link from outlying areas, rather than just the city centre?

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Comment from Kalh79 on 9 August 2014 at 11:02

New motorways in Gobrassanya:

A 10 corridor (Western Border Motorway) : Crofton Ring - Crofton - (Construction) - A7 motorway - A XX motorway

A 20 corridor : Parma - Queensboro - Colquitam - Border line (16 highway)

A XX (A3 corridor): Border line - A 10 motorway - Colquitam

What number could we assigne the A XX (proposed A 3 corridor)??

Proposals:A 3 (but would be divided in two branches) ; A 8; A 17...

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Comment from Easky30 on 10 August 2014 at 14:48

Is the capital district open to all? I was thinking of adding to the suburbs.

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Comment from wangi on 11 August 2014 at 00:13

Hmmm, I jumped in seeing it was blue on the map... Anyways, have fun the suburbs! I'm mainly working the suburbs there, but it should be pretty clear the "quad" i'm currently working on.

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Comment from indyroads on 12 August 2014 at 11:37

Yes Capital District is open to all.

You can actually add to any area in Gobrassanya. All is open for editing.

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Comment from Easky30 on 17 August 2014 at 22:31

How wide should the Prado River be? Some of the suburbs are reaching the river now and I was wondering how it should be developed.

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Comment from wangi on 27 August 2014 at 23:49

I've extended the river banks a bit, a bit narrower than you were thinking.

L/

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Comment from wangi on 6 September 2014 at 01:56

And a core cycle lane grid of 2*2km has built up too - tends to be based around the centres of the quads: where the tertiaries meet, each side of the road

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Comment from wangi on 6 September 2014 at 01:56

Easky30 - really like your work, great detail!

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Comment from Easky30 on 6 September 2014 at 17:09

Thanks Wangi. AS much as I am not a huge fan of sprawl in the real world I do enjoy creating these fictional suburbs. I am influenced by the suburb of Dublin I lived in when I was a child and each neighborhood had a green and similar street names and I was always curious what was the next development down the road. The Ranelah Maintenance Facility is inspired by the Hillside Maintenance facility which is located along the Long Island Railroad in Jamaica, NY, near where I live now in Ronkonkoma suburban sprawl of Long Island. Gobras City does have a very pedestrian & bike friendly enviroment. I assume the bike paths are also for pedestrian use as well?

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Comment from wangi on 28 September 2014 at 00:41

Yeah, ped & bike to beat the cars!

I've tried to capture some of the detail above at http://opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/OGF:Gobras_City - perhaps to serve as a guide for further development?

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Comment from indyroads on 29 December 2014 at 16:51

Route 202/A 202 Bangerter Express Hwy should remain as is. routing A-202 along airport expressway creates two orphan routes with a weird numbering scheme. Originally since Airport expressway was numbered as A-201 it should remain as A-201

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