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Commonia's Constituent Regions

Posted by Luciano on 8 February 2016 in Korean (한국어)

Since I had the day off for the Lunar New Year holiday (Year of the Monkey), I decided to complete the creation of Commonia's 1st level political divisions. Commonia now has 75 "constituent regions" - I conceptualize the country as having a kind of "assymetric federalism" in the style of the Russian Federation.

Since the main map doesn't update often at low zooms, I made one of my "polygon overlay maps" so people can take a look:

http://opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/User:Luciano/Sandbox/Polygons/CO-adminlevel4

Since Commonia is a "blue" territory open to all, none of these choices are written in stone. If you don't like something, you are free to change it. However, please don't change things "just because" - try to have a well-thought-out reason, or some interest in the territory in question.

Hopefully these relations can be maintained despite newbies working the territory - everyone is invited to help out if you notice something amiss.

I made up almost none of the names. I would surf across the map and choose names from towns or other mapped objects placed by various users, and apply them to the regions. The borders in many areas are completely made up, however - and in several areas I added some major rivers to give some shape and reason territories.

Only in a few areas did I find substantial "legacy" boundaries to work with, but in those cases, I tried very hard to respect them.

Only in some blank areas did I make up names. I tried to give the country a wide cultural diversity. To commemorate the start of the "Year of the Monkey" I named a fairly empty southwestern state "Annosimia" - Latin for "Year of the Monkey."

Happy mapping!

Comment from Yuanls on 8 February 2016 at 13:21

I think that looks brilliant! But I would think the area that is currently on the border with Dilleland and Reagan should belong to Katsnelson, with its southern border being the canal, as I designed a majority of the infrastructure surrounding Katsnelson, including the area immediately east.

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Comment from Luciano on 8 February 2016 at 13:32

@Yuanls - as I said, it's free to edit. Since you built the area, you had a pre-existing vision which I didn't know about as I put things together. So... you can rearrange borders if you had a different idea. As long you maintain the integrity of the boundary relations, I can re-run my polygon-maker and repost a new version of the map quite quickly.

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Comment from Luciano on 8 February 2016 at 19:04

@Tâmyña ... Even chaotic countries have boundaries. We, as cartographers (even of fictional places), are representing an ideal, which may or may not resemble "reality on the ground."

Everyone agrees Somalia is a chaotic country. Yet people try to map it.

Perhaps some of the boundaries on the map I've created are "provisional." Perhaps there are even wars between some of the regions. Perhaps other boundaries represent an ideal that has no bearing on what's really going on there.

Anyway, from a practical perspective, several admins have observed that providing some "structure" to the "blue" countries seems to lead to higher quality work by newcomers. Therefore, I thought to take some time to provide some structure to Commonia, in hopes that new users would be inspired. Further, we have may have some stubborn users in Commonia who are creating little empires and disregarding admins and other users... hm, sounds like Somalia, right? Let's try to capture what's going on with a map.

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Comment from Yuanls on 8 February 2016 at 19:47

Actually, Commonia has a de facto government, called the Commonian Confederation. It is unrecognised by the AN and any countries, but it possesses considerable influence over Commonian national affairs. The CC is largely made of powerful and corrupt landowners and warlords, and maintains a national currency as well as a small army. Most unusually, it also possesses 1 aircraft carrier (minus aircraft), that was stolen from TBD in the 1960s (Alternatively if we pursue the 'former superpower approach it escaped Commonia's demilitarisation). It has only fought in 1 active campaign, the West Commonia Independence War. It hasn't been seen since, and its location is currently unknown. It has been rumoured to have been either sunk or decommissioned, broken up and scrapped due to its high maintenance costs.

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Comment from Luciano on 8 February 2016 at 20:05

I have operated on the mental model that in fact Commonia has several competing national governments, as well as de-facto independent regional ones with cross-boundary territorial ambitions. Certainly the Commonian Confederation is one of them. Given the non-UN-style "loose standard" for recognition at the AN, it's possible the CC and other governments are all "recognized" - whatever that might mean. I like your idea of a "demilitarization" with holdouts - I may have originated the "former superpower" concept, but it's just an idea, something to explain the "mad max" atmospherics in some parts of the country. I wonder if somebody nuked Commonia at some point.

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Comment from Yuanls on 8 February 2016 at 20:39

I've always thought that the Commonian Confederation was initially the only government in Commonia, possibly the successor of several foreign colonies or a single, destroyed superpower. However, the Commonian Confederation gradually weakened and experienced internal fragmentations, and eventually turned into what we have today. But your idea works as well, and I like it. What countries have nuclear capability? Has Commonia had nukes in the past? What made countries desperate enough to nuke Commonia? Could Commonia had nuked itself in an internal schism? I guess this all ties into the seemingly never ending world war discussion. OGF military history is always and interesting topic to discuss.

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Comment from _zM on 8 February 2016 at 20:49

Just added a bit to the wiki page about the constituent regions. Hope it's ok.

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Comment from Luciano on 8 February 2016 at 20:59

@Yuanls - Lately I've been wondering if Commonia could be the main "bad guy" in a world war. Perhaps up until the 1950s it was a superpower, ideologically extreme, and had it's own nukes. One idea that I had is that some small, rogue country (or group) with secret nukes got angry at Commonia and wasn't diplomatic about it - and it all turned into a major world war. Somehow, despite its superpower status, Commonia lost - maybe it had made too many enemies with it's previous policies.

@_zM - of course! Go for it. This is all going to require a lot of individual efforts. I may eventually place the "polygon overlay" on the Commonia page directly (as I have done with e.g. the Ardisphere or Gobrassanya). Perhaps rather call the map "theoretical" it might be more "wikirealistic" to call the map "historical" - i.e. like the problem with the Somalia maps I mentioned in a previous comment.

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Comment from _zM on 9 February 2016 at 12:37

@Luciano: Did that. Thanks for the tip I also added a few subheaders for future use now.

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Comment from _zM on 9 February 2016 at 12:37

weird formatting

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Comment from No Way on 9 February 2016 at 18:26

....Further, we have may have some stubborn users in Commonia who are creating little empires and disregarding admins and other users... hm, sounds like Somalia, right? Let's try to capture what's going on with a map....

I wonder if that quote relates to my mapping of Reagan. The discussion above does sort of play into my mapping of the region. If you look the infrastructure is very late 50's early 60's USA style. This is very evident with the growing pains as found in Manchester.

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Comment from No Way on 9 February 2016 at 19:29

I have a Naval Air Station and at least two Coast Guard stations drawn in Reagan. I am now wondering if this means that there are empty hangars.

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Comment from Luciano on 9 February 2016 at 23:29

@NoWay - please don't worry. I might have felt concerned about your work at one time, but just by commenting here and having now adopted your own territory, you have completely redeemed yourself and I see you as part of the solution! Your thoughts and ideas are especially welcome since you have invested so much time in the Reagan region.

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