Posted by Litvania on 7 March 2017 in English (English)

Can someone pleeaaassseeee help me? or at least send me some sort of tutorial that explains how to do it well? Its REALLY STARTING TO ANNOY ME that i cant get these dumb relations correctly. I have created relation deleted them, left out things, etc... i think it need cleaning by a proffessional. Not me. I cant even map river realistically.

I think i have badly messed up the neighboring countries rleations aswell, so @Nikolia i a, sorry if i did so.

It constantly shows up as just a separate country or some weird sh*t.

Location: Tresanov, Litvénské Nikolsko, Litvensko

Comment from eklas on 7 March 2017 at 19:22

What you're getting wrong is adding the correct members to the relations.

Let's say you have a border with me. So the line representing that border will be a member of Litv. and Drab's relations.

Other members of the Litv relation will include the border line with Tsvetkovo, Fressland, Krankheit and Nikolia, and other members of my relation will include my borders with Tsvetkovo, UL099, Escadia and Nikolia. That's because from each of these lines, there's one country at one side and another one on the other side.

Then let's get to the smaller divisions. Take a look at the relation 'okres Drabantský Kolín.' The members are: the border line between Kolín and Beranov, the border between Kolín and Hojtín, the border between Kolín and Frašov and lastly, the border between Kolín and Litvania.

All of these lines have something in common: the area of district Kolín is only on one side of the border. It doesn't make sense for the first three lines to be members of the Drab relation, because they're surrounded by Drab on the both sides, there's no boundary.

So, when you're creating an administrative division, simply draw the borders, then create a new relation and add all the borders as members with the tag role=outer. I recommend using JOSM for this since it has an intuitive relation setup wizard.

Hope this helps.

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Comment from eklas on 7 March 2017 at 19:26

I am currently suffering (literally) from common cold and migraines, and I also have a ton of work but I guess I could do the relations for you, since it's just a matter of minutes. Just draw the boundaries and I'll do the relations.

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Comment from eklas on 7 March 2017 at 19:41

How you specifically messed up here is you added Nikolia to the relation. But Nikolia is on neither sides of that line. You also tagged the line instead of creating a relation. That doesn't work.

  • Split the border between Nikolia and Litvania in a way there's a border with Nikolia on one side and your desired administrative unit on the other side.

  • Then create a relation whose members are that piece of Litvanian-Nikolian border and the line you've drawn and added to Nikolia's relation. (Delete Nikolia's role on that one.)

  • Then tag the relation as needed (boundary=administrative, admin_level=4, name=Litvenské Nikolsko or whatever.)

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Comment from Litvania on 7 March 2017 at 19:47

@eklas is it meant to be a relation or a boundary?

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Comment from eklas on 7 March 2017 at 20:07

Which comment are you responding to?

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Comment from Litvania on 7 March 2017 at 20:22

@eklas i think i got it now, because this, but i deleted Litvanias relation to all its neighbors. I hate myself now. You can hate me aswell.

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Comment from eklas on 7 March 2017 at 21:09

No reason to hate yourself honey! As I've commented on your other entry, you can use the revertor plugin in JOSM to take changes back.

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