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Paliiso, Karolia

Posted by Sarepava on 30 December 2015 in English (English).

I would like to share with you all my progress on the city of Paliiso, Karolia, and invite any advice and criticisms you can offer. Its location is, as far as I have seen, a unique concept in OGF, being built on a series of islands in a wide river estuary. In this respect it is a mixture of Venice and Mumbai, but also with many elements of Helsinki, Oxford and perhaps Hamburg, Lubeck or Copenhagen. You can read about its history and background here http://opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/Paliiso. The city has a great many canals, an ‘old town’ and a ‘new city’ and various interesting islands, including a baroque hospital and a zoo. There is an airport to the north although this is more of a regional stop than an international gateway.

http://new.opengeofiction.net/#map=14/51.5198/112.4052

The city is not yet finished as at least two of the islands need streets and other details, but it’s central area is pretty much done, with the major buildings in place. I’m aware there are some small errors to be fixed and many of the streets still need naming. However there are some things I can’t quite decide what to do with. Is there anything obviously missing beside fire stations and a courthouse? Would Tolvasaar, Puhanesaar and the mainland around Vaisiis be more residential, commercial or something else? What should go immediately to the south of the university? is the industrial area and port near the airport too big?

Karolian probably isn’t that obvious to English speakers, so a few useful words are listed here:

Vana = old; Uus = new; Linn = city/town; Kai = quay; Varashus; town hall; Losse = castle; Saar = island; Kesk = central; Jaam = station; Juvilii = jewellery; kool = school; Pohja = north; Sudt = south; Liidu = state (one of 21 that make up the Federal Republic).

Comment from isleño on 30 December 2015 at 10:28

I definitely want to visit this city…

And I think the answers to most of your questions might depend on how populous you want the urban area to be. If it’s bigger… then places like Puhanesaar and Vaisiis would be more commercial and more densely built up, the industrial area and port would be a good size, and south of the university might have some more intensive land use. But if it’s not so big… then the adjacent areas would be more quiet and residential, the industrial area and port might be reduced a bit, and south of the university might be more open, maybe even unused space. I think it all depends on how big you envision Paliiso to be.

I also really like your use of Karolian language everywhere. The consistency it provides helps make the map feel like a real place, and gives Karolia a strong flavor all its own.

Comment from Sarepava on 30 December 2015 at 19:53

A tricky matter to resolve. The state population (and the state isn’t much bigger than the city area and about a 10km radius from the coast on the mainland) is 700,000, which is typical for a Karolian coastal city seeing as much of the interior is too mountainous for large settlements. But the smaller islands were originally built to be occupied by small workshop businesses, and the lack of road access would make the areas less attractive to modern companies (service industry might be alright, but not manufacturing). So I guess they would be mostly residential with the old workshop houses converted into modern ones - except that property prices are going to be high as it’s a picturesque location with historic buildings, and property taxes in Karolia aren’t low either. It it viable that many people would choose to live here rather than in the cheaper and more accessible suburbs on the mainland?

The university can still be expanded a bit. It’s not really a full campus for the size of institution yet, and given it was one of the prestige projects in the rebuilding of the city it’s realistic that it could be pretty spread out. Wouldn’t fancy being a hungover student on the Monday morning ferry though…

I reckon it might be feasible that the industrial area near the airport still contains a large shipyard for building cruise liners/oil tankers etc and some port facilities. I initially had some concerns about locating ship berths here due to the water being really shallow around the city because of all the silt coming out of the longest river in the country - but perhaps the city has a good dredging fleet and there was a port here in the time of smaller ships which has been maintained. Paliiso itself won’t consume everything that comes into this port but it’s the closest that container ships can get to the interior of north-eastern Uletha so would still be a realistic location (the Tolka Canal cannot handle the biggest vessels). The factory already there is FInira’s main production plant in Karolia and the largest building in the country.

Karolian is mostly based on Finnish and Estonian, and I’ve already learned a modest vocabulary of these languages from filling in the map. The street names are all invented though.

Comment from BMSOUZA on 31 December 2015 at 00:48

As Isleño, I would like to visit the city too!

It looks a bit like Helsinki… I can not wait when this city map will be finished!

Congratulations!

Bruno Moreira

Comment from isleño on 31 December 2015 at 23:11

So I guess they would be mostly residential with the old workshop houses converted into modern ones - except that property prices are going to be high as it’s a picturesque location with historic buildings, and property taxes in Karolia aren’t low either. It it viable that many people would choose to live here rather than in the cheaper and more accessible suburbs on the mainland?

Yeah, with 700,000 population in the local area, I’d imagine there would be plenty of people wanting to live in the islands, driving up home prices there and pushing those wanting a cheaper option to head to the mainland.


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