Road junction at Wyndham

Posted by Yuanls on 16 July 2017 in English (English)

I've felt that I've dug myself a very large hole, starting from my previous mapping ventures in Wyndham early last year. The roads in Wyndham are questionable, and somehow I decided to make roads based on what looked nice, rather than what was realistic. I have to say that I've fixed the majority of the mess I drew beforehand, but following sentiments and similar feelings, the problem in Wyndham has not gone away completely. I've increasingly having to resort to thinking of reasons and excuses why xyz is like the way they are.

The junction here is possibly the epitome of my troubles in Wyndham. (Technically the outer parts of Wyndham deserve that title, but I have not mapped them intensively and so I have room to delete them as and when it is required.) I have made it more realistic than before, as you can see from my Bliki special. It is rather long and rather dreary, and it is more for my own musings and for the sake of recording information, rather than something that is designed for other people to read. The relevant sections are sections 1, 4 (for historical context) and 5.

If you have read my bliki entry and looked at my mapping, you will see that I still have quite a few troubles with this junction, even though it is somehow better than it is before. Wyndham itself is supposed to be a general reflection on a city beginning its transition from more ageing, brutalist structures built during the 60s and 70s to more modernist, more open structures. Something maybe like Birmingham in the early 2000s.

So, in conclusion, does anybody have any suggestions on how on earth I fix this mess???

Comment from martinum4 on 16 July 2017 at 22:56

I really don't think that this junction in it's current form is that bad, I like it...

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Comment from Myrcia on 16 July 2017 at 23:00

The junction looks fine to me, quite good really. It's over-engineered in the way that many 60s + 70s road schemes were in the UK.

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Comment from wangi on 17 July 2017 at 08:14

Why does the E-W secondary section of Anston Rd had access to/from the motorway? The motorway/primary junction serves that purpose i'd think - removing it (junction, not the road) would much simplify things.

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Comment from Rustem Pasha on 17 July 2017 at 09:56

As I remember Glaster is a poor country. If so, the cost primary is the most important thing, while projecting the junction. Although I like the junction, I think there is too many roads. In reality there should be only the motorway and the secondary road with much shorter tunnel with the roundabout under the motorway. From the thertiary road near the railroad there would be short connectors with secondary road.

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Comment from Yuanls on 17 July 2017 at 12:03

@Rustem Pasha

I don't believe I ever explicitly said Glaster was a poor country. It certainly wasn't poor during the time of this junction's construction, when the Ingerish influenced and funded Glastian development heavily. Glaster has never been considered poor rather, lately, it has seen decline. I don't quite understand what you're suggesting for the junction. Maybe a small diagram would help?


This was because of historical reasons, as the bypass used to temporarily end on Anston Road, while the new motorway extension was constructed. I constructed this small map below on to give you an approximate impression of what it looked like.

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Comment from Yuanls on 17 July 2017 at 12:34

Hmm...maybe the problem wasn't as bad as it seemed and I was just overcomplicating things.

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Comment from wangi on 17 July 2017 at 13:00

Yeah, i think it'd work with a few of those links missing; e.g.: Imgur

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Comment from Rustem Pasha on 17 July 2017 at 13:20

I saw it mostly similar to Wangi but with more minimalism, like that. The same functionality as original but ~two times cheaper.

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Comment from Yuanls on 17 July 2017 at 15:11

Thanks for all the feedback everybody! It's been very reassuring looking at what you have to say.


What you say definitely makes sense, and I shall consider implementing it.

@Rustem Pasha

Your suggestion would make sense if the junction was built in a single go. However, this junction was built in stages over the space of around 15 years, and what pre-existing layout there was would take time and money to demolish and redevelop.

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