OpenGeofiction

Ideas for Opengeofiction (Suggestions)

Posted by JoshuaRoadMapper on 9 November 2016 in English (English)

I thought of some ideas for this site.

  1. A custom world creator would be awesome! That way people can make their own worlds too by making their own continents, countries, and permissions on what countries people can edit or not be able to edit. And to where you can create an unlimited number of worlds.

  2. A driving simulator for Opengeofiction so people can enjoy driving on the roads and such. (it can have different modes you can choose from below)

    1. Realistic Real Life-like Mode
    2. GPS Mode (custom voices - you can make your own custom voice too and make it the way you want it to speak) It can be like you're going on a trip!
    3. Cars around you mode (With cars driving around; you can set up traffic too)
    4. Custom vehicle and transportation mode (you can use any vehicle stuff)
  3. Realistic Aerial pictures on the map (and to where you can place trees, signs, mountains, custom images on signs, etc. on the aerial map) (2D and 3D)

These ideas can also be great for future news reports.

These are just suggestions...

I'll be able to tell the rest of ideas soon if I can remember the others.

Thanks for reading. - JoshuaRoadMapper

Comment from Bstn on 9 November 2016 at 15:45

Good ideas, hard to realize. The realistic aerial view would be the one with the less work, as you could download ogf data and push textures on top, then save it as png. I have also thought about such a program, but it is very time intensive and would need cooperation to be finished after everyone's wishes.

First let's solve the basic OGF problems like tectonics, weather, etc.

Later it is worth a look.

Regards
-Bstn

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Comment from compdude on 9 November 2016 at 21:00

Yeah, I agree, many of these ideas are cool and all and would be great to have, but would be very impractical at this point with current technology. But I could definitely see it becoming a thing in, like, 10 years. I for one would LOVE to drive through my city as well as future cities.

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Comment from JoshuaRoadMapper on 10 November 2016 at 03:21

Also, the custom world creator can even include a thing where you can either make the world round or infinitely flat.

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Comment from JoshuaRoadMapper on 10 November 2016 at 03:30

Also, there can be templates for the custom worlds.

  1. Earth (round or infinitely flat) (with roads or without roads on it)
  2. Custom World (round or infinitely flat)

This makes it a few templates...

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Comment from Ūdilugbulgidħū on 10 November 2016 at 09:40

Most of these have been discussed before. We need a better way to make those discussions accessible - they're hard to find in the 'diaries' set-up. That is one of the basic problems with OGF.

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Comment from dryerlint on 10 November 2016 at 12:03

The Driving Simulator sounds like it could be possible using downloaded data (maybe JOSM files). The graphics would have to be pretty basic, though. And it would be strange without topography... the world would just be flat, and the only stuff blocking your view would be buildings.

Realistic Aerial Pictures sounds like it could be pulled off if we had more tags for things like signs. I couldn't see anyone using them, though (we already have a Tree tag and nobody really uses it). But other than that, it sounds like it would just be another renderer, albeit a much more complex one.

@Ūdilugbulgidħū

Would a forum work? I agree the User Diary system is weird to work with.

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Comment from Yuanls on 10 November 2016 at 17:04

We could have some kind of live chat (like the google hangouts chat we had some months ago). That way it would be much quicker to decide on what to do in the case of large projects.

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Comment from JoshuaRoadMapper on 10 November 2016 at 22:45

And I forgot one more thing, directions for both miles and kilometers like OpenStreetMap does, that way we can know how long it takes to get to from one place to another.

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Comment from JoshuaRoadMapper on 10 November 2016 at 23:25

And a measuring thing.

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Comment from JoshuaRoadMapper on 11 November 2016 at 03:28

I don't know if this will work, but maybe a 3D editor for Opengeofiction?

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Comment from isleño on 11 November 2016 at 13:32

As others have mentioned, if you want a driving simulator or an aerial view that actually looks good then you'd need a lot more data than typically gets mapped in OGF. I suppose a 2D 'satellite view' could look okay at lower zoom levels in areas with completed land use cover, but there are very few locations where even that exists. However, it's possible that creating such a layer might serve as an incentive for more people to work on land use. As for other worlds, it would be great to see an application that can easily explore .osm files offline with the same kind of browsing experience that you get online.

On the forum issue, my understanding is that we've stayed with User Diaries because we want to keep things simple (users already have separate accounts for the map, for the wiki, and for OGN news... we don't want to require another account for a forum). There was some talk of making an "OGF:Discussions" page in the wiki, just a list of links to the most common discussions people might be interested in, but as far as I know that doesn't exist. If someone wants to create it, they'd be welcome to do so. The list of discussions on Portal:User Help & Resources might be a start.

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Comment from Luciano on 11 November 2016 at 15:07

Indeed islenyo's point about the desire to avoid additional OGF applications requiring additional admin work and user passwords is important. Let's try use the applications we already have more effectively. Wiki format is quite powerful, there is no reason a forum could not be implemented on the wiki under the OGF: namespace. Anyone is free to take initiative.

Regarding most of the other items on the wishlist, my feeling is that they are unrealistic. It's important to remember that OGF is free because it's relatively easy to maintain as a "hobby" for the admin team. Adding complex and expensive applcations would require a different business model with a lot more money involved.

Happy mapping.

-posted from my samsung tab at Minneapolis airport - isn't technology cool?

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Comment from Ūdilugbulgidħū on 14 November 2016 at 12:39

Driving simulators and 'world builders' have been discussed before, but I can't find where easily. Many times it comes back to this: the diaries aren't a very effective long-term format to discuss things.

I think that developing an alternative forum to the diaries would be very positive. The diaries format is limited, and is limiting and it results in multiple duplication of effort.

OGF also appears to have an issue with 'ownership' and responsibility. These not transparent. Is it worth putting a lot of effort into an alternative system that might not actually be used? But perhaps is actually the format and the set-up are the real issues.

To break down: what would be objective of an alternative system to diaries? Why would alternative system be better? Answer this question, you're a long way to knowing whether its worth putting the effort in.

Solutions I've come up with so far were, as Luciano put it, 'baroque'.

But it could be implemented on the wiki, no doubt. OGF: namespace, new 'discussion mainpage', threads to bring things together, etc.

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Comment from tule00 on 14 November 2016 at 13:03

Basically, you want a fusion of OpenGeofiction, Google Earth, and SimCity. While it's great as a concept, it's very hard to achieve, especially for a group of enthusiasts rather than a huge development studio.

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Comment from tule00 on 14 November 2016 at 13:04

But if you have a map editor in a city-building game, you can recreate your city there. It's not easy, but it would probably be fun to do.

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