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Here's the thing.
OpenGeoFiction has always been a really interesting idea to me. Collaborating with other people to essentially create a fictional Earth is such a cool thing to do, in my opinion. But, some of you may know that I have, multiple times, started mapping, lost interest, and come back again. I have just recently gained interest again, but I don't want to go through this cycle again. I think I have identified the main reasons why I keep losing interest:
I don't have a lot of free time to do this, and sometimes I just don't feel like mapping. I think I need to just accept that maybe I won't make edits for a little while, instead of simply giving up and saying, "well, OGF must just not be for me."
I need to find the things that interest me. I found myself, the last few times, getting quite bored at doing monotonous things that I feel like must be addressed before moving on, when they really might not.
I need to be okay with not being perfect. No real city is exactly perfect, and neither should an OGF city be. Of course, this should be within reason, it shouldn't just be stuff thrown around, but it doesn't have to be this perfect, symmetrical grid. Speaking of grids...
I think I have a problem with grids specifically. I live in the US, so grids kind of come naturally to me. I feel that they have to be perfectly aligned and spaced, because my thought is "well, in real life, if they had a grid, it would be perfect!" I think I should just choose to avoid grids altogether for the most part.
I think also having some sort of goal in my head for what the final city should look like would help.
So, most of that up there was mainly written for me, but I would like to ask the rest of you of your thoughts. How do you keep yourself interested? How do you overcome perfectionism?
And, where is potentially a good spot for me to make a city? Even though I've been registered for over a year, I'm certainly not going to ask for my own country. If there are any free, I could potentially get a "state" in that USA-like country that was being made around the time I last tried to come back. Well, maybe not a whole state yet, but aren't there some areas that are more collaborative?
One more thing I wanted to mention (I know this is getting quite long and isn't very coherent, but I hope you can stick with me) is that I live in the country, and have for quite a while. I can't drive yet either. It's not that easy for me to try to make some city that is like where I live, because, well, I don't live in a city. It's sometimes hard for me to even think of how cities usually work and the stuff they tend to have in them. Hope you get what I'm saying there.
I think I've said everything I wanted to say, so... thanks for sticking through this really long post, I guess?
So I'm sure everyone knows about the Making realistic cities wiki article. It's quite a useful article, but I find I have a hard time making it useful.
The biggest thing that I have a hard time with is the choosing of a model city. I'm not wanting to make a city now, I want to make a small little town. There are hundreds, if not thousands, more small towns in the real world than there are large cities, and finding a good one to use as a model city seems... impractical, if not just impossible.
My plans for the town I'm working on right now (see location) is to make it a little beachside resort town, with hotels and the like near the coast. There's already some roads there, but what I'm having trouble with is knowing how to expand those roads. Also, probably the biggest thing I struggle with, as I imagine is true with many new users, is scale. Knowing how far apart roads should be is not something that comes easily to me by any extent.
Another thing that's difficult for me, that kind of goes along with the previous things, is "zoning," for lack of a better word. I don't know what areas should be commercial, what should be residential, what should be industrial (if any), etc. The only thing I really know is that I want some hotels on the roads closest to the coast. The reason why this is a problem to me is that knowing what's going to go where affects road spacing. Residential areas are most likely going to have shorter distances between roads than a commercial area, but by how much? I have no idea how big each of these areas need to be or the road spacing for them.
I would post something like this in the forum, but I can't, so... sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok, here's some history of, well, me.
Back in April of 2017, I stumbled upon OpenGeoFiction, and, it seeming interesting to me, I decided to join. I started work on a town in Lonowai District of Gobrassanya. I had plans for the town, but they never went too far before I got discouraged and/or lost interest, and I simply stopped mapping after a little while.
Then, in September, I remembered that OGF existed, and started mapping again. I removed everything that was in that town before and started again. I really wanted to finish the town, I didn't want to just leave something unfinished there and go on to bigger projects in OGF. But, I did. I lost interest again, and the town was eventually just deleted. I pretty much declared to myself that OGF was not for me, I didn't have the time or interest to get back into it again, and I'd never come back.
But I did. So that brings me to now. OGF interests me again, and I want to start mapping. I said last time that I was hoping to permanently become a part of the community, and I didn't. I want that to actually happen this time.
I'm not going to go back to that old town in Lonowai, I want to start afresh. Since I have technically been a member for over a year (I never deleted my account or anything), I can get a country of my own if I want. I think I might do that, but I have no idea where to go.
What things can I do to help myself be a better mapper, and not lose interest or get discouraged? How do I make it seem less daunting to get started? What might be a good country to start mapping in? How can I help myself plan better?
Also, I see there's a forum now. What's different between the diary system and the forum? Also, what happened to the world news thing?
Sorry for the wall of text. If you read it all, thanks for taking the time to do so.
As probably none of you remember, I joined OGF about 5 months ago. I was somewhat active in the first few weeks, building a small town here.
I had a plan for the town, but never finished it, mostly because I just didn't really know what i was doing. I eventually forgot about OGF. But I've recently remembered that it exists, and am thinking about coming back.
So, I think the first thing I will do is potentially rebuild this town from the ground up. Now that I kind of sort of know what I'm doing, I think I can make it a lot better this time. I'll figure out what kind of style I'm going for by looking at some real world towns and cities from OSM, as well as looking at surrounding cities on the island.
I hope to permanently become a part of this community. I've loved the idea ever since I stumbled upon it, and although there seems to be a lot to learn, it seems like fun too.
As always, any tips or feedback or whatever is appreciated. Us noobs need all the support we can get! :P
So I'm currently in the process of creating a town here. If you want to know more about the town, you can look at my previous diary entries. But, I was wondering if the scale was okay. To the left of the motorway is a commercial area, and to the right of it is a residential area. Do you think that the street "blocks" are about the right size? If not, are they too small, or too large? I tried using that new measurement tool, but it was a bit hard to use.
For some reason, JOSM has decided to stop working. When I try to download the map from OGF, I get this popup.
Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it?
Edit: It works fine now after I made the area slightly smaller. See the replies for more info, if you're curious or having the same problem yourself.
So about a week ago I posted on here after I joined, saying I was making my first town. I decided to give a little update.
First of all, I came up with a name idea. I was thinking of calling the town Furstrade. It's a play on words, since it's my first town, and it was built there as sort of a trade center (see my first post). You could also think of it being a town where furs were traded a lot.
My thinking for the layout of the town is to have a commercial area over in between the river and highway. (see map) I've already got that mapped out, aside from the actual buildings. Historically, this used to be an area where people would do a lot of trading between the other towns that were along the same river, and over time, it was slowly replaced with modern commercial buildings.
To the right of the motorway, is the residential area. I'm currently in the process of mapping this. Historically (I really like the idea of this having a somewhat detailed history, if you can't tell :P) people who were dealing with a lot of the trade here decided to build houses over here, so they wouldn't have to travel so far every day. These houses were kind of built somewhat randomly, though. When this was being modernized, the local government was on a bit of a tight budget, and so they decided to keep it relatively random. So the streets will be a bit nonuniform.
Finally, below the residential area on the other side of the river, will be the government area. This will be relatively small, and have things like the town hall and such, and maybe a small park.
Let me know what you think of this so far. If you have any tips or suggestions on things I should maybe do a bit differently (since I'm new here) feel free to tell me.
Wow, I spent way longer writing this than I should have...
Hello there, everyone! I've just joined OpenGeoFiction last night, and am going to start mapping today.
This seems like an awesome and friendly community to be in, and also just a really neat project, so I'm excited to take part in it.
For now, I'm using the web editor, although I will soon be switching over to JOSM. I just don't feel like figuring out how to connect it to OGF at the moment.
I'm planning on starting out by making a new town in Lonowai District. It will be on the Lonowai Island, above Obaku and in between the 2 forests. (about where I put the location of this entry)
My idea for the town is that it was built after Obaku, Uhola, and Widana Beach. A lot of people were traveling along the river and the roads there, and it seemed like a good place to put a trade center. Thus, the "theme" of the town will be centered around trade. It won't be a huge town, it'll be somewhere between the size of Widana Beach and Obaku. Not sure what I'll call it, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
So yeah, you might see some stuff popping up there over the next few days. I hope to really enjoy participating in this community! Also, if you think I should change something about how I make this town, feel free to let me know. (or just change it yourself if it's something I've already mapped)