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Welcome to Barra da Grama, Brasonia

Posted by BMSOUZA on 11 May 2017 in Brazilian Portuguese (Português do Brasil)

Well, OGF-friends... Looks like I finally finished one city in my countries (Slovech is not finished yet).

Welcome to Barra da Grama, the third most important city of Brasonia.

I set inside the city limits as much buildings as possible. And I created names to (almost) all the streets.

There are still somethings to do, but, at first shot, I am proud, hjehehe!!!

I need creating names to few streets, but I still need creating names to shops, mainly in the old downtown (how can Myrcia create so much good names to shops in her/his country? hehehe). And, the main point to me (but not rendered in any OGF-map), relations to metropolitan bus routes, hahaha

I am always also editing the wiki article, trying to write some thing insteresting about this city I learned to love, and I can say with no doubt, this is one of the OGF-places I would like to live.

Now, maybe, focus in the metropolitan towns. But, maybe, I will start the old plan about re-creating Cariocas country, I dont know yet...

Abraços a todos!

Bruno Moreira

===UPDATE===

Hi, everybody!

Well.. I will do some changes about Barra da Grama rails...

More about it soon!

Regards to all!!

Bruno Moreira

Comment from zhenkang on 11 May 2017 at 10:23

Wow, can see it is amazingly detailed! Did you add essential amenities such as Hospitals, fire posts and police stations in your city?

Also, can i see the town hall in the city?

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Comment from BMSOUZA on 11 May 2017 at 10:35

Yes, Zhenkang!

The municipal and state government headquarters are here.

Hospitals, there are a lot, and fire stations, some, like this. Police stations and military areas, there are some mostly in old downtown.

One thing I agree I could create more: schools. There are few ones in teh city...

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Comment from wangi on 11 May 2017 at 11:44

What's the story with the old railway station - isn't it in the more logical place, with the better approach?

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Comment from Myrcia on 11 May 2017 at 13:14

Well I think it looks terrific. I am always interested to see how people map the detail in their stations and I think Central station is one of the most detailed and original I've seen. I also really like your use of lagoons and your costline in general.

Would be interested to know what the purpose of this island is. I can see it's a toll or checkpoint but does it need its own metro station?

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Comment from Demuth on 11 May 2017 at 13:54

Agree with everyone, this looks amazing... the detail is mesmerizing, and you can keep going in closer and closer to see more and more in places like the railway stations, the airport, etc. So impressed!

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Comment from ruadh on 11 May 2017 at 14:26

Fantastic stuff, how full the place feels and with so many little details, this is very neat.

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Comment from Sarepava on 11 May 2017 at 14:50

What a fantastic achievement. The city has a real character and sense of life to it.

Now, a couple of details to address:

  1. I do think there needs to be some hint in the map as to why the old station got removed. The new site offers no more room and means a very sharp 90 degree curve as well as a probable demolition of housing to create the new path. That's a huge amount of money to alter. Perhaps there were originally two rival railway companies who refused to share a station, so each built their own - later on the scheme was rationalised (although I would have kept the old station rather than the current one). But then...I see that the metro has been built to serve the old station and anybody arriving by train has to take a bus...this limits the usefulness of the metro unless a branch is built.

The curve approaching the station could be softened a little - it's a 200m radius which is very tight and will need trains to slow to about 30km/h. This could realistically cause congestion especially as your pointwork is all very tight together close to the station. I'm assuming your 'Spanish solution' platforms are intentional.

The station square doesn't leave much room for buses and taxis, which will inevitably stop here. I would suggest making Rua de Escritores closed to private cars for a block to avoid public transport causing congestion when they stop or wait for passengers. Alternatively put an interchange alongside the platforms in place of the trees.

  1. Foot access to the bus stations is poor and the whole BRT line is quite inefficient at serving the built up area, as well as doubling the metro line for a long stretch. Of course, buses can leave their right of way and run on normal streets in other areas, but it makes no economic sense to build an expensive underground metro mostly within 500m of the route. In the case of accessing the central station from the town centre, passengers will have to take their chances running across the busy Avenue Central. The bus stations are cut off from the town by this road...in fact a better site would have been the old station.

I really think the metro should run further north between the airport and Lagoinha. Cid Admin. station is particularly inefficient and is only of use to anybody visiting the town hall. It also inexplicably avoids the town centre of Cata Vento. In fact I'd question whether the size of the city justifies the expense of an underground line at all and whether you could even tunnel safely so close to the sea. Buses would do the job just as well.

  1. Probably your next project: bus stops are needed in the rest of the town.
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Comment from eklas on 11 May 2017 at 15:26

Love it, looks very nice!

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Comment from BMSOUZA on 11 May 2017 at 18:20

I am happy about your feedback, OGF-friends!

Answering some questions:

@Myrcia: Really I tag that place incorrectly as "station", but this is only a quick manutention access to the tunnels close to the subway company headquarter.

@Ruadh: Soon I will set more of these boats, and create a wiki article to the operator company with photos, hehehe. Another thing to you: take a look in locations of the drilling off-shore units of PetroCar.

@Demuth: Thanks, my friend! But the airport still will be re-created in details - I dont like it so much yet... hehe ;-)

@Sarepava: Maybe we have to talk in private messages because you give me so much detail to re-think, hehe.

The background story about a rivalry between two rail companies is a very good stuff answering the question @wangi did, despite really I had not thought, hahaha!

Really I know since I start detailing the city I should create a subway line to Palmeiras town, serving the Central Station in Barra da Grama. Still mentioning Palmeiras will be so much populous, and there will be set an important industrial area in this town - with a lot of passengers going to work needing transportation.

And, as I was always mentioning in my bliki, and I am a buses-addict, I am always thinking: "needs more bus routes to here and to there". As dont render in the map (an I did not include in the wiki yet), you did not see the worst part: I created ONLY ONE bus route in Rua dos Escritores - what a shame! hehe

But about people visiting the town hall, maybe I am talking about things only happens in Brasil, hehe, because, at least in not-so-big cities and towns here, in town halls (prefeitura) also works secretaries of health/trasnportation/education/etc - something like ministers, but in municipal scale, hehe - and is usual people goes to townhall here. To get the permission to build my home, I was in town hall several times last year.

Still mentioning bad-ideas-from-Brasil: Ok, the example I will put here is not a BRT route, but take a look at some streets and imagine like, in Brasil, is usual buses running routes along subway/trains routes, specially between Madureira and Deodoro stations - there are a lot of bus routes at these streets, almost the same route of the train, hehe, and the same from Deodoro to north metropolitan cities: Mesquita and Nova Iguaçú (yes, there are A LOT of bus routes in this same train route).

About the subway going to Cata Vento, yes, this town is not so big, but here the idea is serving the airport - this way, would be a bad thing to set the final station in the airport and exclude the people of the town, just a few kilometes ahead, hehe. And, Cata Vento downtown will be set exactly in this area, between Airport and the rest of the urban area, in the part where the rail comes to surface and do a curve to west (am I writing correctly? hehe) - please do not consider that route on a viaduct.

Soon I will talk more to you about other details you mention, but not now because I need going outside and work right now, hehehe, maybe tomorrow I will have more time to write. ;-)

Abraços a todos!

Bruno Moreira

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Comment from histor on 11 May 2017 at 20:47

As ever I like your detailled work. The football-grounds are very fine.

Too the metro-line has its sense, if you prolongate this line more to the east (to Grama). But in Cata Vento you can let run the metro straight on a viaduct and go from the east in the "cocheras del metro".

To the railway: Better - I think - is the main-station at Rodovoária and the route on the old way. The new way may be an older version of the rail-connection with the sharp curve.

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Comment from Ernestpcosby on 12 May 2017 at 01:52

Looks great! I love it. Amazing and inspiring work.

Although, I kinda have to agree with some about the Metro and BRT. It really seems like the metro is almost unnecessary. It looks like the BRT can essentially do everything the metro does, but better. I understand about demand and need for alternatives (in Freedemia the subways basically follow the streets as well XD) but the BRT stops serve almost the exact same locations as the metro stops in so many places the metro feels a bit redundant and financially a bad idea. I'd kind like to see the BRT network as the backbone, maybe with a couple extensions upward into the city (maybe utilizing Ave Baltimore or Ave Tamarinda for the east side as an alternate terminus?) into a little "metro" system of it's own. :)

Maybe your leaning towards just buses was right all along ;)

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Comment from BMSOUZA on 12 May 2017 at 09:36

@Histor: I am always happy reading your words! I see that was a fail I did about the locations of the old and the current Central station, but I can not change it now. At least, not right now. But I consider this possibility, maybe to the next days. I will decide about it soon, because I am also considering about a new subway route, serving the current Central Station, but the main purpose (to me) would be serving Palmeiras, that will be the most populous town in this metropolitan area. If this works, the only problem would be the tight curve in the current railway.

About Grama, I still need to map this town, but I can say the subway route will across this town, hehe!

@Kazuya: Thanks about the offer, but better not. None of my countries are collaborative projects.

@Ernestpcosby: As I said to Sarepava, it is like one of the "bad/wrong-things-from-Brasil" I use here in OGF. One thing I can say you: There are a lot of bus routes in Av.Tamarindia, and some ones in Av.Baltimore. Maybe was not the better idea, but I am always spend more atention to bus routes (even the suburban ones) than any rail routes... It is a thing I need to change by me, hehe ;-)

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Comment from BMSOUZA on 13 May 2017 at 02:29

Hi, everybody!

Well.. I will do some changes about Barra da Grama rails...

More about it soon!

Regards to all!!

Bruno Moreira

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Comment from ilikemaps on 13 May 2017 at 02:38

I first saw this city when you put a velomobile circuit there (which everyone should do in their cities), and I thought that this would be an amazing city when it was done, and it is.

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Comment from Ūdilugbulgidħū on 13 May 2017 at 13:13

It's looking great, especially I like the feeling of all space it has and how its 'in the right place'. Good to redo the rail, the central station particularly. The airports I think could do with some attention to detail as well, particularly the 'white gap' between the grass and the runways could be sorted out. Since no one else seems to have done, I'll add it to featured maps!

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Comment from BMSOUZA on 13 May 2017 at 23:38

@ilikemaps: Thank you! I am happy you like it, and was looking to Barra da Grama before this post!

@Udi: Thank you about your words and about the nomination! About the airport, I dont know why does not render the grass in the white gap you mention - if you download this area, you will see there is grass in this area. And... take it easy, Udi (and Histor, hehe), you are mentioning places outside Barra da Grama city limits, hahaha!!! The airport is in Cata Vento town, will be edited soon...

Maybe, when I update this post ( or write a new one), I may link to boundaries relation, not to the web page - this way all of you will see that only Barra da Grama is finished, not the towns around it, hehe

Abraços a todos!!!

Bruno Moreira

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Comment from BMSOUZA on 14 May 2017 at 00:34

Uploading a new version right now! More soon...

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Comment from zhenkang on 14 May 2017 at 10:21

Your city is such an inspiration to my mapping, more renovations in Singkangia!

Also, did you have a university in your city? Can you construct one? And also develop more abt your subway system; I would like to see how the people commute.

Can I also build a Singkangian embassy in your country?

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Comment from Thunderbird on 14 May 2017 at 20:05

The detail is amazing. I love your style of mapping, keep up the great work! Focusing on detail and mapping out is my preferred style as well!

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Comment from BMSOUZA on 14 May 2017 at 22:45

@zhenkang: Yes, there is one, but I still need to Increase it. About your embassy, it will be in Campo Verde, but you should follow as said in the brasonian part of the OGF:Embassies rules

@Kazuya: Yes, as Ilha da Gigóia, my inspiration in real world.

@Thunderbird: Thank you!

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