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Frjálshöfn and the dilemma of early mapping

Posted by EMKLI on 8 October 2019 in English (English)

Hey everybody,

during the last weeks, I finally decided to touch a very hot potato which bothers me for at least two years: the Frjalshöfn area.

The Frjalshöfn area was one of my early mapping projects in terms of landscaping. At the very beginning of the OGF history, Thilo wrote a diary entry where he encouraged us mappers to shape their countries individually and creatively. He also linked some interesting topographical spots. The Stockholm area was within these links. And I wanted to let Frjalshöfn be like Stockholm.

In my opinion, I failed. This became more than clear to me when I visited Stockholm last year. And even worse, The Frjalshöfn area in itself is totally unrealistic. Where should the water for this specific landforming come from? In the hinterland, I imagined a mountainous landscape, however, the distance to Grænnshöfn is only approx. 75 kilometers. There is no room for the forming of large rivers with that amount of sedimentation. I was aware of that problem quite early, but I mapped on, adding more and more infrastructure to the unfinishedd geography, deciding to solve the problem of verisimilitude at a later time.

Well, this time is now. Frjalshöfn in that form faces its last days before I will remove most of the islands and also most of the hinterland. Most of the infrastructure I've added will vanish as well. When preserving to much of it, creating a new geography will be far more difficult. However, I will preserve the central islands around the city center where I did the most detailing so far (the headquarters of the VEC will also be preserved). However, not all of these places will remain islands and I will move the whole city to the northwest, approximately to the place which is actually called Akurveiting. I will also remove the large bay in the north west of the area (which is possible as I do not need to change my maritime border). Instead, I will create a large inland sea like the Mälaren west of Stockholm. In the southeast, the landscape will resemble the Stockholm archipelago more closely.

Wish me luck, this is the biggest act of intentional vandalism in my own mapping so far (which is not so much a sentimental problem, as I've said, I was quite unlucky with the whole area for a long time, but more the fear of the sheer effort).

Comment from zhenkang on 8 October 2019 at 23:19

Sometimed that happens. When you have some old mapping you wish to get rid off but you dont want to due to the huge task to redo the area.

I dont really have much of my too early mappings, because they were already deleted. Still I still kept some of my best ones, including an airport and a port in Elhadia and old towns of Singkangia became other towns in the country. Still, sadly I havent worked on them much yet, but I hope I will again one day. For now, I just mainly resuee pieces from my old port.

I remember Luciano having such a case for his capital of Ardisphere...

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Comment from Öllöjoumi on 9 October 2019 at 10:07

i think i can help you. Laxland has a similar terrane as Stockholm.

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Comment from LemonKing on 11 October 2019 at 16:43

I appreciate you taking this bull by the horns. Frjalshöfn is a fascinating area, yet I agree it is unrealistic and I look forward to seeing it transformed. Good luck and happy mapping!

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Comment from Demuth on 11 October 2019 at 20:48

As someone who actually lives in Stockholm, it will be interesting to see how this plays out! (My own city of Mynninghamn is definitely inspired by Stockholm to a degree.)

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Comment from Picard-Lindelöf on 12 October 2019 at 18:03

I agree it is unrealistic for all of the water formations to be natural.

However, I really like the layout of the railway/subway lines as well as the streets that are already in place... So I suggest you remove part of the water and change the rest of it into man-made things like canals, harbours etc.

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Comment from EMKLI on 14 October 2019 at 22:27

Thanks for all your feedback!

@Picard-Lindelöf: that's exactly the problem I'm dealing with at the moment. Because I didn't care about verisimilitude in the first place and kept going instead, I now have some nice areas I would like to preserve without the surrounding geography. At the moment, I try to figure out which parts of the city I want to preserve. I will keep some of the quarters, however, I will split most of them apart. The city island will not be part of the new city, I doesn't like the design. However, the southern islands will stay, but in a modified form. I will see how I can manage this.

@Demuth: nice design. And yes, it is clear that Stockholm was an inspiration for Mynninghamn. ;-)

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