Disappeared Islands/Provinces

Posted by Saint Piran on 31 October 2014 in English.

Oi!

Where the heck are my outer Islands/Provinces - West & Southwest of Brythonn?

I checked-in today to discover my two outermost Island groupings; BOTH OF WHICH HAVE & SHOULD CONTINUE TO EXIST IN A NARRATIVE BELONGING TO AN ONLINE GROUP OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OPENGEOFICTION; have simply disappeared!!!

Those islands are an integral part of a Project based upon this MAP, much in the same way that ‘ordinary’ OSM is integral to say, Wheelmap.org and others. Parts of my (or anyone else’s) works on OPENGEOFICTION should not be open to being ‘abused’ like this. Presumably the party responsible would now like to rewrite the ±200,000 word narrative we’ve put together involving those islands ~ in light of their sudden disappearance? That’s the workload I’ve now to face in order to ‘make good’ all the ramifications of my islands’ disappearences.

NOT HAPPY guys.

Location: -48.922, 21.270

Discussion

Comment from histor on 31 October 2014 at 19:03

Illegal islands are deleted from admin two days ago. So simply it is.

Around your land you had made a lot of islands and the admins had tolerate. But you are not free to set so many islands in the ocean, as you want. There was a lot of it and - as I remember - without any infrastructure.

Why some can not accept the simply rule, that the admins (p.e. thilo) gives the land and this is the land, what is given? If you want more, please ask or tell something about your plans and we can talk. But it is no good idea, to play the imperialist.

If you had a project outside the OGF-world, but with the resources of OGF - is that fair? So tell more, if you want to be helped.

Comment from thilo on 31 October 2014 at 20:53

Presumably I have to say something about it, because I’m the “party responsible”.

The islands have moved here (also I reduced their size):

http://opengeofiction.net/#map=10/-41.0162/25.9058

First, those islands were illegal from the start. I am clearly at fault for having tolerated them far too long. I’m very glad however that I gave you only 2 of the 6 territories that you requested initially (and that’s still one too much).

I even warned you that the creation of the islands would encroach on the rights of the owner of AN140. As long as AN140 had no owner, there wasn’t a problem, but now it has. And those islands even didn’t have any meaningful content. Surely there was nothing to write 200,000 words about.

Claiming territories, enlarging them by creating islands somewhere in the ocean and then leaving them lying around mostly empty is not what Opengeofiction should be about. I feel have given you the benefit of doubt for a long time, but if you don’t get around to start some serious mapping activities in your territories, I’ll have to include them in the next withdrawal round.

No offense, but this had to be said.
- Thilo

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