Posted by UN1TY on 7 April 2018 in English (English)

I thought I’d share this article comparing population densities of European cities.

It has a lot of information on how, when, and why the most crowded neighborhoods developed, and includes several satellite images for reference.

This could be useful for those of us who might be designing European-style cities in our OGF territories.

Comment from Rustem Pasha on 7 April 2018 at 12:18

The article is interesting but in conclusion they are missing the point a little bit. The most valuable thing to us is time so we try to save it as we can. In European cities majority of workplaces are located in the centre or near it. The same is with most of neighbourhoods listed in the article so it's easy to imagine that when we live here any transportation problems are non-existent. A pensioner of the neighbourhood has work, shops and public services only few steps from his home (and if not, there is a dense grid of fast public transport like subway, non-existent in suburbs). To get from suburbs to centre requires sometimes hours of car driving (for example in Warsaw it's about 1-1,5 hours). That means living in suburbs takes from us 15 hours a week. While living in a flat in the block is not so comfortable as in private house it isn't worth that time.

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Comment from histor on 9 April 2018 at 11:50

Here many is to say about. The density of population always plays together wirh the aspect of transportation. You do not need a metro- or subway, where only few people live. And your city can only be so big, as transportation-infrastructure allows.

Since 1870 the first steps was made with horsetrams, towns can spread out in the former green medows and fields (5 to 8 km). Next steps 1995 are electric trams, who allow a radius of roundabout 12 km and since 1900 subways, allowing 20 or 25 km (or more). But this expensif soloution of transportation problems is only realistic, if this areas have a certain density of urbanisation (roundabout 10 000 inhabitants / km²).

At last - you need more trams and metros (or busses) and more streets, if the density is lesser, because the ways are longer for the same number of people. The difference at a density - let us say 12.000 / km² - between a slum and a seeked area is only, how big the flats are, where people live (Jane Jacobs - see [] )

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