OpenGeofiction
A few months ago I decided to wipe my first city in Glaster, Ellmouth, clean straight off the map. It was simply too outdated in relation to my current mapping style, so I deleted the entire thing. Being a very sentimental person, I decided to keep the original Ellmouth as an OSM file, as well as leaving some places or landmarks tagged as ‘line=yes’, just as a testament for what was once there. It would be useful to re-render the old Ellmouth and lay it over my current work. Old screenshots of Ellmouth do exist, but they are all at either a too low or too high zoom level to be useful at the current time. Is there any way of rendering the OSM data without uploading it to OGF?
Mappingwise I’ve taken a break from Plowford and have started rebuilding Ellmouth now, mostly here, although my progress has somewhat ground to a halt. I don’t exactly know where to go with my mapping now. I feel like I should do something significantly interesting to the place, rather than normal, everyday kind of interesting I am accustomed to mapping. Any suggestions?
Happy mapping!
Yuanls
Discussion
Comment from zhenkang on 30 June 2018 at 13:32
Giving a few suggestions:
How is Ellmouth an important part of Glaster? I mean, is it Glaster’s key port? Or maybe Glaster’s oldest port? What is Ellnouth’s part in Glaster’s history?
There are many things you can do about Ellmouth. Like you can turn it into a sleepy fishing village, or a bustling port. It can be a tourist spot full of resorts and shops like the tropics, so it can also be a getaway during the summer. Ellmouth can also be a key checkpoint for Wyster people coming into Glaster, so being a tourist spot is not so bad.
If you can, I thought of suggesting a naval port, or a coast guard base against ‘illegal immigrants’ somewhere in the city.
It is really interesting about the drastic difference in details: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=11/51.8164/129.3154
Comment from zhenkang on 30 June 2018 at 13:34
On a side note: build a friendship bridge between Glaster and Wyster in that city too. A 10 km bridge isn’t that bad.
Comment from Yuanls on 30 June 2018 at 18:52
Thanks for the ideas. Ellmouth was founded by the Ingerish in the late 1700s on previously undeveloped land, and would have had some kind of fortress somewhere, although that would be further west. It’ll become a tourist attraction, sure. I’m probably going to put in some kind of heritage museum to showcase some history and industry. There was a coastguard station in the design of old Ellmouth, but I deleted that. It will make a return, however.
I’d prefer there to not to be a bridge, it seems a bit unnecessary.
Comment from Yuanls on 30 June 2018 at 18:56
Also yes, the difference in detail really showcases how different users map. I have never been a fan of low-resolution mapping; I find it too confining when I try to add anything in between. I am always a fan of detail. I’ve been working with ID and Potlatch for most of my time here. ID couldn’t do low zoom levels and Potlatch was not user friendly so I never got anything done beyond a certain zoom level.
Comment from zhenkang on 30 June 2018 at 23:52
Ellmouth is also distinctly like Marapura in Gobrassanya. If you know where to get inspirations from, then you know what you want to map.
I still prefer JOSM to iD, since to me it is much faster. I normally use iD for small edits or some maintenance (like adjusting a few nodes or moving buildings if they are too close to the roads.)
Comment from Myrcia on 1 July 2018 at 09:03
This looks great, I have always followed Glaster carefully. I have a great deal of sympathy too as I restarted Dunwic about six months ago and it’s been a long, slow project.
Comment from Yuanls on 2 July 2018 at 21:51
Thanks Myrcia, I’ve been following Dunwic quite regularly and it’s great to see how it develops every time I take a look.
Comment from Alessa on 3 July 2018 at 17:42
As always, your detail work is excellent. Where’s the historical core of Ellmouth? Is it a newer city or an older one? I ask, because the current mapping in Ellmouth is a lot less dense than one might expect to find in an older downtown/CBD/port-and-market center. Knowing where you want that (and you may simply not know right now) will allow you to gauge where density drops a bit.
As for rendering OSM files without uploading, the best advice I could give would be to open it in JOSM along with your newer one but in separate layers. You can play with the transparency of the layers and move them up and down to get at least a functional glimpse of how the two overlie each other.
Comment from thilo on 3 July 2018 at 18:18
For local rendering of .osm files, try Maperitive.
Comment from Yuanls on 4 July 2018 at 22:14
@Thilo
Thanks, I’m using that now. It’s good, but it’s in the old OSM colours. Is there any way to change to the new OSM colour scheme?
@Alessa
Thanks, I did JOSM layering most of the time until I learned about Maperitive. The actual CBD of Elllmouth hasn’t quite been mapped yet, the bits currently in detail only touch the CBD and is mostly the inner city and the inner suburbs. The CBD is to the west, currently a slightly altered, copy-pasted version of the old city centre for Ellmouth rotated 90 degrees. I haven’t developed that bit yet and I’m probably not going to for a while, I’m currently expanding northwards and eastwards.
Comment from thilo on 7 July 2018 at 13:24
@Yuanls
Probably not, but I don’t know.