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Posted by coshatiuav on 17 September 2019 in English (English)

I am Coshatiuav (co-shatew-ay-vee, you'll know why soon), a close friend of user Zhenkang who introduced me to this site. I have always had an ambition for fictional mapping, and it is probably time I reveal my plans for OGF. So far nothing is up yet :P I am a pretty busy person - a major exam is coming up soon followed by university, so I'll probably work on the bulk of my content offline while uploading large chunks intermittently.

I plan to work on a group of nations called the Creolic States <\del> this will probably end up somewhere where there's a bunch of 'green', though if one of the new continents opens up by the time I feel ready I'll be glad to use that. Of course most of my territory will probably end up in the hands of other mappers, but I do want to have some decisions over their language and cultures.<\del>

The hallmark of the Creolic States is a philosophy-cum-proto-religion called Hretism - a practical knowledge and science-based view on humanity and its future. Expect a lot of startups and think-tanks stemming from these places. These nations largely have their own distinct cultures despite having similar racial roots. At the same time, (me living in Singapore) Meilan(Chinese) and ??(Indian) migrants form a significant part of the Creolic community.

Here are some of these nations: -Grinzez: around 190-200 thousand km2. Planned three major cities - capital Pyapyor, Hitherceko and Thretop. Inspired from Singapore, London and Berlin among others. <\del> -Raufael: another major state like Grinzez, the leader of the States pretty much. Ingerlish-dominated. East Raufael is an Oriental split-off from this state. -Zhichy (Ʒiɕyi) -Launyat: capital Syopenal, inspired from Paris and Tokyo. -Sinaira (σήνάιρα)

And these states have to be around so history fits together more nicely: -Hu'qao and its sister state Nangang, Meilanese nations -Tauland: Sri Lanka-like state, possibly the first attempt to introduce a primarily Dravidian nation into OGF<\del>

The climate definitely doesn't have to be like Singapore's, I'm thinking more of subtropics (Cfa/Cwa) in fact.

I also consider myself a railway enthusiast, so that's the way I typically form the baseline of my cities. I mostly learn by observation - that's the way I work. On the other hand, I do need some help for geography and mapping rural areas (you need lots of those for a developed rail network!)

Ta ta for now, do leave a comment if you have any enquiries!

Comment from zhenkang on 17 September 2019 at 08:32

Show others your mapping on josm. I.e. screenshots so we can know your mappign standards.

You can save your mapping in any of the blue nations, but of course theres the risk of new users wrecking it.

Anyway, welcome to the party. Hope to see you more often here.

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Comment from Toadwart on 17 September 2019 at 08:42

Of course most of my territory will probably end up in the hands of other mappers, but I do want to have some decisions over their language and cultures.

I strongly suggest to rethink that attitude.

While I can understand the situation, "of course" and "want" are the wrong approach. Also, who do you expect to subject themself under your rule?

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Comment from wangi on 17 September 2019 at 09:05

I think you need to have another read of https://opengeofiction.net/about - you cannot edit the green territories.

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Comment from zhenkang on 17 September 2019 at 09:54

You have many ideas Qiyao, but sadly you cant do all at once. Neither can you influence or force others who claim those before you to take on your plans. OGF is about being collaborative and mainly mapping as well. Most users wouldnt get to take up many territories at once when they first come, so do your stuff step by step. Even if they got taken, try shift it to another and do a plan B.

It isnt good having too many plans at once as well. It makes you unfocus and create a mess instead. Please focus on one project you think is best, ask admin for the territory, but take some time to do some mapping in the blue nations.

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Comment from zhenkang on 17 September 2019 at 10:13

And dont follow my footsteps. I am not a good role model here and there are other users out there who are able to guide and mentor here. Any questions, ask them.

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Comment from Rustem Pasha on 17 September 2019 at 11:21

I would suggest to focus on showing the mapping skills first. If I were you, I would ask myself first how much territory do I really need for my plans. From your description I assume that 400 to 500 thousands of kilometers is enough. There are several free territories of that size which you can divide later in your nations. Of course the admins rather won't be willing to give any of them to the new user.

There are two ways for to go you at the moment. First is that you can find a large and empty area in one of the blue territories (I suggest to look at Commonia and Rhododactylia) and fill it with beautiful and realistic large scale mapping. When you show it to the admin team they would probably give you any of big territories you wish.

Second solution is to claim a small territory and fill it with detailed mapping in at least 50%. This would allow you to ask for a second territory and probably admins would give you any of you ask for.

If you are really good in mapping natural features you should probably choose the first solution but if you still need to learn something the second one is better.

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Comment from coshatiuav on 17 September 2019 at 12:29

Hi all, Thanks for the comments - really wasn't expecting so many of them to come up.

I have thought through my previously misguided and overambitous planning, and would just like to clarify two things:

1) I'm far from ready to map my actual territories. (by that I mean requesting from an admin) Most of what I have consists of just languages, some founding values and the rough location of major settlements. (And railways.) So the first thing I will build is a small settlement of my culture in one of the blue nations as suggested. When I mentioned "green nations" it was where I intended my group of nations to be finally located, but I've largely dropped that idea now as I believe my capacity at this point won't go that far.

2) After consideration, I'll most likely work on one to three Creolic territories. Of course the context of my creation would work better with more territories, but I realized that I have no idea how users of surrounding territories interact with each other.

Since I'm completely new here I won't disturb much, other than to ask for feedback.

Thanks and sorry for coming up with such worrisome plans :/ -cav

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