OpenGeofiction
Hello! I’ve just gotten started with OGF about a week ago, and it looks great so far. Making small roads and buildings with the iD Editor was a lot of fun. I do have one question, though…
This guide recommends to start by making large-scale mountains and rivers. However, in iD, I can only make edits while zoomed in very close. This seems to make large features somewhat difficult; how can I work around this? I’ve tried JOSM, and it has a similar problem, as you can only download a very small slice of land.
Also, I’ve claimed a country (AN152f) but can’t seem to figure out how to rename it. None of the administrative borders are selectable in iD - they just won’t load at all. I’m sure it’s something simple that I’m missing…
Thank you!
Discussion
Comment from Luciano on 19 May 2016 at 00:31
I wrote a “first draft” of a very detailed article about how to change a country’s relation information (including name). You can see it here:
http://opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/User:Luciano/Sandbox/Help/Changing_Your_Country_Relation_Using_iD
Note that in the case of AN152f, there is some additional confusion because there are TWO relations - one is the “main” (“official”) relation:
http://opengeofiction.net/relation/21987#map=7/-55.441/54.602
The other is the “land area” relation:
http://opengeofiction.net/relation/26820#map=7/-55.229/55.624
The second one is the one you changed the name on, and that one doesn’t have any effect on what is displayed on the map - its purpose is to calculate land area. Actually, on this “land area” relation, the various tags “ogf:” should be changed, to prevent confusion. I have just done that, but I have left the name of your country unchanged to give you a chance to figure out how to do it on your own.
Note that in the iD editor, sometimes it is necessary to hold down the shift key while trying to select objects - I don’t use iD very much, and so I had forgotten how to do that, just now, when I went in to check the problem you described.
In JOSM, if you want to download larger areas, it is important and useful to get the “ContinuosDownload” plugin:
osm.wiki/JOSM/Plugins/continuosDownload
Comment from dryerlint on 19 May 2016 at 01:11
Thanks for the help! I think it’s done now.
Comment from Pawl on 19 May 2016 at 07:11
I hadn’t noticed the ContinuosDownload plugin. I work with offline osms for my entire countries, originally extracted from the daily backup. It works fine at the moment, although I expect it will become impractical as the files get bigger.
Comment from isleño on 23 May 2016 at 05:35
Yeah, “ContinuosDownload” is pretty much indispensible for me. Maybe we should start a “favorite JOSM plugins” wiki page or something.
Comment from dryerlint on 23 May 2016 at 12:48
I’m just surprised that nobody has made an “area download” plugin, so you can select a massive area and divide it up into a grid of separate download requests. That way it downloads them one at a time instead of overwhelming the server.
On a side note: Why are OpenStreetMap download-size restrictions based on the size of the area you select? In OGF, you can select an enormous area, but it might only have a few spots of data in it. Shouldn’t restrictions be based on the amount of data points you’re requesting?
Comment from isleño on 23 May 2016 at 14:04
@dryerlint - Yeah, I’d love an area download plugin. As to your question, I’d guess that the restriction for downloading areas is based on size because that way you avoid the need to calculate the total amount of data in a given area (which could be a massive amount of data). But maybe someone has a better explanation?