@Litvania and I have been working together and we came up with what I’d say is a pretty decent historical timeline. However, there’s a little something that is crucial to the whole concept we need approval for. Here’s a brief version of the history concept:

  • The area was settled as early as 2000 BC
  • Slevic/Syrillangan tribes came around 500 AD (migration from Suria through Escadia, some tribes (problem 1) settled in UL100 too) but there were no countries yet.
  • First centralized country - Grand Loravia (Velká/Veľká Lorava) around 710, the Stanislav dynasty; area covering Litvania, Luavia, Drab. Egalia
  • around 850, a Christic religion was introduced
  • 890 - Grand Loravia is in decline
  • Invasion of Egalians (Egalians were/are a nation whose home is somewhere in (problem 2) UL109 or UL111. They were good warriors and also invaded (problem 3) UL108a, Nikolia, UL108c.)
  • In Boravia, there’s the Radslav kingdom; from ca 1050 the Bohmír kingdom.
  • 1104 - 1116: The Drabantian-Egalian War; The Egalian Empire was collapsing so the Bohmír kingdom decides to fight it and wins
  • from 1116 on: Lands of the Drabantian Crown (semi-independent margraviates), king Svatopluk II. (Bohmír dynasty)
  • 14th century - Egalia becomes powerful again; this time also by espionage, blackmailing and politics
  • 1377 - king Bronislav III. stabbed dead in Tressen
  • 1379 - Egalia invades Drab. again
  • new dynasty: the house of Thuiadhs, new king: Brenald III.
  • violent conversion from (Christic branch) to (Christic branch), a lot of relics and buildings get destroyed, Drabantian and Litvanian language banned
  • early 17th century - strong nationalist movement
  • 1639 - prince Thea I. decides to separate Drab., Litv. from the rest of the empire (which is falling apart anyway), but also separates (problem 4) UL100g from Drabantia.
  • July 17, 1641 - Thea marries Alžběta Boravská. A new dynasty (Václavovci, Wenceslasians) is founded. The country is now called The Wenceslasian Union.
  • May 15, 1721 - Mary-Elizabeth’s semi-democratic constitution goes into power.
  • 1725 - Litvania and Drabantia split on demand by the Litvanian nobility.

Our countries’ wiki pages will get updated in near future.

Anyways, there’s four ‘problems’ with this concept. We’d like to ask the community and especially the admin team, is it please possible to include:

  • UL100 as a Slevic/Syrillangan country?
  • UL109 as home of the Egalians?
  • UL108a, @Nikolia’s Nikolia and Krankriet as countries that once belonged in the Egalian Empire?
  • UL100g as a former Drabantian territory?

The part about Egalians is the most important, because countries like Drabantia or Litvania are too small to become irrelevant rich duchies, but too large not to be invaded by a larger country at some point in their history.

Please comment your opinions below.

Location: Historická země Dolsko, UL15b

Discussion

Comment from isleño on 10 March 2017 at 17:14

Unfortunately, it’s not possible to create history for unclaimed/reserved countries. The key to resolving your problems is vagueness, for example:

Problem 1: Slevic/Syrillangan tribes came around 500 AD from an unknown location and settled in various areas throughout the region. Problem 2/3: Egalians were/are a nation whose origin is unknown. They were good warriors and also invaded various countries in the region. Problem 4: 1639 - prince Thea I. decides to separate Drab., Litv. from the rest of the empire (which is falling apart anyway), but also separates Drabantia as a distinct area of its own.

Comment from eklas on 10 March 2017 at 17:18

Okay, thanks.

Comment from Sarepava on 11 March 2017 at 10:18

isleño is right for the purpose of making OGF work, but the problem is in the real world borders move about a lot and countries appear and disappear. Poland, for example, has moved progressively further west in 400 years, whilst neighbouring Lithuania has shrunk from a substantial kingdom to one of the EU’s smallest countries. So it’s likely that OGF borders on the current map would be as fluid historically.

Consider too that collapse of rule can be precipitated by famine, bad weather, natural disaster, superstition, succession crisis, disease and economic changes.

Comment from Nikolia on 11 March 2017 at 13:14

I’d like to be part of this history considering similar culture, and well…Nikolia’s Slevic too and i’m there, right by Litvania

Comment from eklas on 11 March 2017 at 13:23

@Sarepava, those are amazing points! Thank you.

@Nikolia, you’re invited to be oppressed by the Egalians. Some parts of your country can also be included in the Grand Loravia, Crown Lands or the W. Union, but let’s wait what @Litvania has to say about it first.

Comment from Litvania on 11 March 2017 at 20:46

@eklas @Nikolia I am open to discussion on the Litvania talk page

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