OpenGeofiction

Why are the country requests taking Forever?

Posted by MOI N on 4 February 2019 in English (English)

Somebody said they were on hold , But i want to know why and sorry for spam of entries . I have sent several requests . but several days and nothing. Do the admin only do the ones after 7 days of contributor terms?

Comment from Luciano on 4 February 2019 at 23:57

Territory requests are currently on indefinite hold.

This is not your fault, nor anyone else's fault. It's just the way things are right now.

As has been pointed out, "No one has ever died waiting for an imaginary territory."

Please be patient.

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Comment from iiEarth on 5 February 2019 at 00:02

Hello, MOI N! I know that people sometimes get irritated about the fact that Isleño has ‘disappeared’ for some time. I have also been waiting for territory, but while you are waiting, maybe you could join a collaboration with other mappers. This, for me, has made me forget about the territory which I want and make me more interested in collaborating. Maybe you could try, too!

-Sincerely, iiEarth

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Comment from Mike's World on 5 February 2019 at 00:09

When I requested for a 2nd country two weeks ago admin shunned me out also. But I think recently he's been quite quiet. You might just have to be patient with him. He could be just taking a break, or working on a busy project.

If he doesn't answer, try asking him in the summer. That's when he let me get a country and when he could answer.

Good luck mapping

-Mike

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Comment from ADB52 on 5 February 2019 at 00:18

How about mapping in a blue territory? When you get allocated your territory, you can (if desired) transfer it.

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Comment from austinhuang on 5 February 2019 at 00:38

Mike, you might want to read this for second territory. I don't think you fit the requirement currently.

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Comment from zhenkang on 5 February 2019 at 00:48

Honestly. Just wait 6 more months and continue planning your territory. Or just sign up for a purple territory. Also spend more time in blue nations as well and continue mapping. Your mapping, at the moment, isnt of quality yet.

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Comment from iiEarth on 5 February 2019 at 01:13

Also, MOI N, I don’t think so the admins give territories to new mappers; you were accepted as a contributor twelve days ago.

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Comment from Mike's World on 5 February 2019 at 02:12

Thank you for the advice austin. Crenru is focused primary on city building since I want my population to get to 10 million. However, I need more topography details than a forest here and there and a desert. I might hold back on a second country request until the country has the appropriate land use.

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Comment from louis_walker on 5 February 2019 at 04:24

@zhenkang Please be more understanding when new users post entries asking totally reasonable questions given that their requests are being ignored. It's not like everyone's getting an auto-generated email saying that things are on indefinite hold, and the option to request a territory hasn't been removed while this is the case. I've noticed that whenever this question has been posted, your responses have been quite rude. It doesn't hurt for us to be polite to new users in explaining what's going on.

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Comment from Luziyca on 5 February 2019 at 20:17

To be honest, we should just stop accepting new registrations to the site until this situation has been resolved: while it won't do any good for those already waiting, it'll keep the bathtub that is OGF from overflowing because of how clogged it is with requests: it's like shutting the tap off.

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Comment from geoboi on 5 February 2019 at 23:10

@louis_walker agreed. It never hurts to be kind. For all I know, Isleño has a perfectly logical and urgent reason to be absent from OGF. I don't blame the new users for asking these questions, because the person who normally provides the answers is not available. Keep in mind that the new users join with an ambition to map their own country. They take what the wiki says as Bible (the user is allowed to request a territory 7 days after joining the site), and expect that what the wiki says is going to be put into effect, kind of like a rulebook. MOI N joined AFTER Isleño went on his hiatus, so how was MOI N supposed to know that Isleño can't handle the request because he probably has some important real-world business to attend to.

Please, if you have to say anything on this site, especially to new users,

BE KIND.

It's just as important to be welcoming and courteous as it is to keep the mapping as professional and clean as possible. Be kind, be respectful. I felt like this when I signed up for this site, and the community was unbelievably accommodating and kind with their responses. What happened?

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Comment from wangi on 6 February 2019 at 01:45

Those "request after 7 days" links have now been clarified, and made explicit that requests are on pause.

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Comment from zhenkang on 6 February 2019 at 07:42

I mean, shouldnt the new users also read previous diary entries conerning the territory requests, before they are deleted?

Im just tired of this repetition of requests for new territories.

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Comment from wangi on 6 February 2019 at 09:25

You don't have to respond, you can just ignore such requests.

The user diaries aren't well suited to browsing, or searching, it's not much of a surprise there are repeated requests. That's also why the forums are a better place for the more experienced users to have a discussion.

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Comment from karlosrandle on 6 February 2019 at 10:27

I've read through these discussions about country requests (I've waited for mine for months, and yeah I just made this account to comment) and I just wanted to say it has to feel very empowering to tell the kids to go play in the sandbox while you're having fun mapping your country (or multiple countries). Shame on you that do so. People will edit in open or collaborative countries if they want to, but they came reading that they'd be free to edit a country of their own in 7 days and they deserve a response, or even better an explanation of which measures will be taken to solve the issue, because I doubt it's sooo difficult. I know no one pays for this and that everybody has his life and problems, but come on, country assignment shouldn't be more difficult than reviewing if someone's edits are good and then saying 'you want this country? here you go'. And if someone can't do it why can't somebody else be assigned to the task? I guess if we're already enjoying OGF it's not our issue that some people are not, right?

For those of you who can't wait to map and have been unanswered for months, I'll let you know you can Set up a local copy of the OpenStreetMap website and edit your locally-saved maps with the OSM editor like I've started doing. This looked like a nice idea to participate in, but I'm now off Opengeofiction. So long!

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Comment from ADB52 on 6 February 2019 at 11:05

Well, the previous commenter can safely be ignored, methinks. It's a pity that the allocation of territories has come to dominate these diaries, to the detriment of other topics. The reason for this delay just needs to be accepted, and this reason been made clear in the FAQ. I really hope, though, that this will be resolved ASAP.

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Comment from karlosrandle on 6 February 2019 at 11:30

Sure, ignore me and enjoy mapping your country, you who can.

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Comment from wangi on 6 February 2019 at 11:35

The pseudonym does you no favours.

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Comment from TheMayor on 6 February 2019 at 13:15

While I also get tired of seeing this thread every week, the fact that this is still an issue is very concerning. I appreciate that the admin has a life outside of this website, but indefinitely turning territory allocation off does not make the situation better. Inactivity is part of any online community, but without a stream of new, excited users coming in it inevitably leads to atrophy of the site as a whole.

I don’t have the answers and I’m relatively new here myself, but I do hope this situation gets resolved in some way soon.

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Comment from Luziyca on 6 February 2019 at 14:45

Which is why I suggest that we disable registrations to this site altogether: that way, it'll stop further newcomers from applying for a territory and then complaining after several months that they didn't get their territory.

Once the backlog is cleared, then they can turn registrations back on.

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Comment from Black Baron on 6 February 2019 at 14:47

Working together in a collaborative territory undoubtely leads to an improvement of mapping skills, a lower temporary mappers / total mappers ratio and increases knowledge about other countries of the OGF world before starting a new fictional nation. As in real life, a good starting point is to learn and then apply your new mapping skills to your own work... when you have reach that goal. As we said in Castilea Archantea: "Primer caminar i després còrrer" (first walking and then running).

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Comment from Luciano on 6 February 2019 at 18:28

I think the fact that someone has made a sockpuppet to complain here is interesting.

What if the fact that we have a bunch of users making sockpuppet accounts is one of the reasons why territory grants have been on hold? Just sayin'...

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Comment from zhenkang on 6 February 2019 at 23:14

Speaking about sockuppets, I rather if admin discuss with the user to merge all his accounts into one, instead of banning him. Because, it will be a waste of talent to ban those who have mapped with certain quality. Then again, sockpuppeting is also pretty serious, so I prefer if admins just discuss with the user first, send a stern warning before banning him/her from the OGF universe.

Not all users read the rules carefully as well. When they got banned for other violations (e.g. vandalism in other nations), they may panic and set up another one. This in turn banned the user altogether after admins did a brief check.

And for all newbies, I suggest yall just sign up for collaboration around the world, whether it is official collabs like Antigo (socialist totaliterian state mapping), Niulutan-Riu (rather islands and tropics mapping), Khaiwoon (urban mapping) and the Southern Islands (Antarctica mapping). Or other unofficials like Elhadia (South African mapping) or Omniville/Buildtion (General UK and urban mapping)

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Comment from histor on 7 February 2019 at 00:37

Khaiwoon (urban mapping) = I think we schould delete Khaiwoon from the list of zenkhang. This project nearly is finished and any thing, what may do do there in the future is under influence of islenio.

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Comment from zhenkang on 7 February 2019 at 02:44

I still find that there are still other parts in Khaiwoon to be detailed. Such as some of the outer neighbourhoods. The metro stations can be detailed as well. So in short, I doubt Khaiwoon is that closed yet.

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Comment from wangi on 7 February 2019 at 09:22

Not your say though zhenkang. Authorised edits in Khaiwoon are very few, hence why the collaboration is described as "mostly a closed project".

https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/OGF:List_of_collaborative_projects

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Comment from histor on 7 February 2019 at 10:02

Indeed we can be happy, if all other metro-lines and stations in the OGH-world are so detailled as in Khaowoon.

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Comment from zhenkang on 7 February 2019 at 10:07

Oh I thought by a closed project means the project is closed, as in it may be de-purplised like the case of Ardisphere.

Anyway, althought I live in Singapore and have some experience in mapping such a nation, I will not join in. (Plus other personal issues with the leading collaborator) And neither will I create another clone of Singapore/Hong Kong. I will only say Khaiwoon is successful due to its small size and having nice experienced active mappers in there.

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Comment from wangi on 7 February 2019 at 10:59

Khaiwoon is a fly in amber.

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Comment from histor on 7 February 2019 at 12:00

Khaiwoon is one of the first projects, realisized here in OGF. Years ago. So in some aspects it has the "charme of old days". I think, Khaiwoon not should to be touched, til islenio says something to this city. Khaiwoon should be sheltered from unexpected changings!

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Comment from zhenkang on 7 February 2019 at 12:55

Lol. (Antigo in 1980s: vows to nuke capitalist Khaiwoon which has led the world astray into consuming in its goods)

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Comment from whateversusan on 7 February 2019 at 14:30

I hear the frustration here on the part of users who have been waiting for so long.

This situation has lasted too long. I was lucky to get my country in under the wire but this is going to lead to new users up and leaving. Admins: please have someone else take over country assignments or choose a new admin who can.

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Comment from wangi on 8 February 2019 at 01:44

Users: please give the admins time & respect, let them tackle things with the resources they have

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Comment from louis_walker on 8 February 2019 at 02:18

#waitingforgodot

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