Rendering of 'farmland'.

Posted by Marcello on 1 October 2018 in English (English).

May I for once (hopefully) express my extreme displeasure in the recent change of OSM / ‘Mapnik’ rendering for ‘farmland’ ? I know there has been a discussion on GitHub, I know there is a (for some) valid reason regarding confusion of colours for social amenities and farmland, but still…

My point is this: I model a tropical island. There, farmland is rarely vaguely green, as rendered now, but often a vibrant yellow. And larger patches of farmland in moderate climates now almost look like the default background colour.

I know ‘mapping for the renderer’ is an ultimate sin, but f#*k it, I’m trying to make ‘my’ turf look good. For me, OGF is as much art as it is skill. The sudden change of my plantations from sort of golden glow (sugar cane, anyone ?) to a decrepit ‘vomit green’ is realy annoying - even if I have to accept it in the end.

sorry for ranting, thanks for letting me blow of steam ;-)


Comment from Yuanls on 1 October 2018 at 16:27

I’ve had similar feelings about the new rendering. It’s horrible. I’d quite like to know the thought process behind changing it. It makes the contrast between urban and rural areas less distinct.

Unfortunately I’ve go swathes and swathes of farmland to revert, and that’ll take too much trouble. I’m just hoping they’ll change it back one day.

I didn’t even know ‘mapping for the renderer’ was frowned upon. I was always flexible about tagging rules, and normally I don’t put anything into background, non-rendered data. A map should display all the information it needs on a visual basis. If the user can understand what the map shows, then the map is good.

Comment from zhenkang on 2 October 2018 at 00:36

There has been many complains here as well, whether on social media or private discussions. The colour seems wrong, yeah.

Comment from Ernestpkirby on 3 October 2018 at 12:06

I get the feeling that no one, at least no one on OGF, likes these changes. Not sure about on OSM, but I can’t imagine it’s much more popular over there

Comment from Alessa on 3 October 2018 at 15:12

The consensus I’ve seen in my dealings over in OSM is that many people do actually like the change. It is very unlikely to change back. There are those that don’t like it. Fortunately for us, we do have the Histor style view that can be used if the OSM version isn’t appealing. I’m actually okay with the change, but it was initially a bit jarring. In fact, I found it more striking here than on OSM. I think the reason is that we even subconsciously tag for the renderer, and we’re emotionally attached to our work; we get used to how our creation should look in our eye. In the not too distant future, we’ll be used to it and another change will come across the way. Boundaries and some other landuses are up for debate, and these very well will trickle down to us as well.

Comment from Luziyca on 3 October 2018 at 19:28

Admittedly, I wouldn’t mind the color if it had more… contrast with the blank landscape. But we got the histor theme, so if neccessary, we can always use that.

Comment from Ernestpkirby on 3 October 2018 at 21:11

Is it possible to get a tweaked version of the Histor theme that just thins the lines a bit and doesn’t exaggerate the railways?

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