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Huntington Red Light

Posted by histor on 8 September 2019 in German (Deutsch)

O.k. - there are more places in Huntington, where you can go in the evening. But the real night quarter, the red-light district of the town is behind the railway station. In the north the Ispelia Street, east the Gobrassanya Avenue, south the Ataraxia Street and in the west the Kalm Avenue are the imaginaire boundaries of this area. Here the night can be dangerous, sexy, loud and fascinating.

[https://opengeofiction.net/#map=16/-37.6034/157.9145]

Who will map the houses, bars, pubs, music-clubs, cinemas, restaurants and all other features needed in this environment? We need a mapper with advanced skills in city-mapping. If you are interested, please send an inbox-message to Ernestpcosby or me (histor).

Comment from zhenkang on 9 September 2019 at 02:04

You mean like where people experience the nightlife of Huntington? Drinking in pubs, occasional fighting between gangs, prostitution, R21 movies in cinemas etc?

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Comment from histor on 9 September 2019 at 08:36

I think in a town with 1 800 000 inhabitants is a certain nightlife, partly irregulair. In Huntington - I think - it may be more civilisated as p.e. in Stanton, but nevertheless it is there. If I think at a town like Hamburg / Germany (1 800 000 inhabitants also) then there is this area, where you move more carefully as at other places, but on the other hand life is more lazy. In Hamburg are two: named St. Paul and St. George (!).

R21 movies means for people older as 20?

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Comment from zhenkang on 9 September 2019 at 09:15

In a well-planned and polished city like Huntington, where there may be a steotype of just hosting government offices, I think this type of district can break that trend. Such nightlife can attract tourists as well to visit the capital, though since nearby Stanton may already promote such red light districts, it may not be rrally successful. Nevertheless, go for it.

One red light district in Singapore is the area of Geylang, infamous for its gang fights and prostitutes. And yes R21 is a movie rating used by SG for movies for above 21.

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Comment from histor on 9 September 2019 at 11:06

Because Stanton is away 400 km, only few will take this journey for a special night-kick. So I think, Huntington has its more soft night center near Seneppi Avenue in the southwest of the central hexagon with theatres, cinemas and some music-clubs and a more rough and dirty quarter behind the railway station. No town is totaly clean and - as you wrote - also Singapore has its dark side.

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Comment from zhenkang on 9 September 2019 at 11:33

I think for Huntington, the red light district may be for some government officials who wants to chill from a day of hard work. After all, people in there needs to let their hair down for a while.

In Antigo City, I did map a red light distirct catered for foreigners, whether just visiting, doing some aid work or having some business there. It is all in the Foreigners' District of Right Beat, though I havent really manage to detail it just yet, like specifically for what streets. I will go back to it one day. Sadly not for the locals, but well if you keep your ear to the ground, there may be state-sanctioned borthels or unofficial local pubs that brew their own beer for locals.

For Kuehong, well, I will keep this in mind while mapping Vang Ngat, my current project.

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Comment from Portopolis on 9 September 2019 at 22:40

I'll say 400 km from Stanton to Huntington isn't that bad. Why? Washington to NYC is only 360 km. It's probably part of the reason why D.C is even popular with a train to NYC lots of tourists can explore it's unique museums and also it's unique build due to height restrictions making it the most Parisian city in the U.S by far.

What's crazy actually about the Washington area, is while Washington has a bourgeoisie perception it's actually historically one of the worst cities for crime in the United States. It actually fell of for a while and only recently made a revival.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/homicides/

You can see from this map that D.C is actually pretty crime ridden in the Southern two quarters and the inner Maryland Suburbs. Suburban Northern Virginia though is one of if not the wealthiest region of 2.5 million people+ in the U.S with 3/6 wealthiest counties in the U.S being in the D.C area. Howard County which is third don that list is between D.C and Baltimore but while it's considered Baltimore, a substantial amount of it's population commutes to D.C meaning D.C has 4/6 of the Wealthiest counties in the U.S. Their's various political reasons for this , (partially smaller counties on the East Coast and history of segregation and height restrictions leading to massive investment in Virginia rather than D.C itself and Maryland)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States

What D.C is known for, that you might not know.

D.C has the wealthiest black community in the U.S, especially in Maryland, specifically Prince George's County. The city is actually less diverse than it's suburbs, being mostly black and white while it suburbs have large Asian, Hispanic, Black as well as White populations an dis where most of the ethnic enclaves can be found.

It also has the wealthiest or second wealthiest population (Metro Area as a whole), depending on how you classify San Francisco/San Jose

It is the number one city for urban, suburban development in the U.S meaning, outside of the city, places like Arlington/ Tyson's Corner/ Silver Spring/ Bethesda being some of the most urban suburban areas comparable to only Northern New Jersey outside of NYC.

So all this leads up too, for a Red Light district I don't necessarily think it needs outsiders to sustain itself and even with Stanton just by being the capital Huntington will attract it's own set of visitors form around the world and FSA who would want to visit all the offerings of the city, including that district. Again don't know how much you want to mirror the real world but D.C is also increasingly joined at the hip with Baltimore and I could easily see the same situation arising with Huntington and New Annshire.

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Comment from histor on 9 September 2019 at 23:18

Huntington has its own weight in comparatin with the cities nearby like St. Jacobs, Anne Abbey or New Annshire. So indeed the "red light quarter" may be visited from tourists (why not), but mainly there are local visitors from the city itself and the villages around, may they be in the Capital district, Gilliad, Newlynn or Wilthamshire.

Offside from this interesting meta-discussion: We seek a mapper with advanced skills for this interesting work.

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Comment from louis_walker on 10 September 2019 at 02:09

LOL @ the idea of New Yorkers flocking to the District as tourists. We...do not do that. 😜

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Comment from Megacity2005Creator on 10 September 2019 at 03:38

Omg. I never realized northern virginia was so rich. Which county is the wealthiest?

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Comment from Portopolis on 10 September 2019 at 14:16

^^^^ Loudoun County. What's special about it is if we are talking pure wealth divided by population it isn't that crazy wealthy. Where it's extremely wealthy is when we are talking about median income. The area has the largest upper middle class population in the U.S. Places like the majority of NOVA is somewhere like 60%+ classified as upper middle class and 30-40% middle class and a very small poor population. While a place like Fairfield County, Conneticut (exurban NYC) a solid 10% of the population are like 1%ers but 20-30% of the population especially around Bridgeport is in abject poverty. Same with Westchester, NY which pushes those county a lot more lower because it contains dozens of wealthy small towns and Yonkers, New Rochelle and Mount Vernon range from poor to lower middle class are the three biggest towns there. This leads to the entirety of D.C suburbs in both Maryland and Virginia for the most part being extraordinary wealthy.

Iouis_walker. I was more talking that tourists to NY and D.C could take the train and visit each other's cities rather than New Yorkers themselves.

Histor, I would love to help but I have so much on my plate and little time since University picked up again that it's unlikely i'll be able to do much. I don't know too many Red Light Districts. But if I did get the chance I would likely be inspired by 6th Street, Austin, Texas. Albeit it isn't that dangerous but it is next to the "grimier" East side of Austin which TBH has been gentrified when compared to modern day D.C. From what I understand in places like D.C the nightlife areas aren't really grimey, and more trendy areas in Arlington/Georgetown but these areas are supra-gentrified as next to San Francisco and New York City, D.C is easily one of the most gentriifed American cities. Only smaller cities maybe like Savannah, Georgia or Charleston Georgia still have really trendy shady Nightlife districts so some of the grimier businesses might still be there. Red Light Districts definitely don't exist in America the same way they Exist in Europe or Asia. Mostly because America tends to have large swaths of cities that have rampant crime and so where mostly too dangerous for a decent nightlife district to form (like full on shootouts, every few weeks in the neighborhood). Most of the ones around now in large cities are super-gentrified and at best have large homeless problem but police presence and other things are too heavy for gangs to operate in the ways gangs operate in other cities in Red Light districts. Like I said the best example of what I think your looking for might be in smaller cities like Baltimore/Savannah/Charleston where gentrification hasn't turned these cities upside down. Maybe Inner Harbor has that feel your looking for.

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Comment from iiEarth on 10 September 2019 at 16:34

Is it meant to be like a miniature Las Vegas? If so, maybe you could look at The Strip for inspiration.

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Comment from histor on 10 September 2019 at 20:01

No - nothing like Las Vegas. More something like the 6th Street in Austin / Texas. And please do not forget, that Huntington is not 1:1 to Washington DC.

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Comment from PColumbus73 on 15 September 2019 at 22:47

It makes sense to have nightlife and a less-than-reputable neighborhood in Huntington. Yes Stanton is a (relatively) short ride away, but low and middle income citizens may not have the funds, not the energy, to travel to another city for a night out.

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