official OGF Instagram Account

Posted by lars on 3 December 2018 in English (English)

Hey Guys,

Hope everybody is doing great!

I just had the idea of founding an insta accoubt for OGF. I mean that what a lot of you doing is real art! And I think it would be great to share this with others out of OGF.

Ofc someone has to dothe whole work to lead that Account. But Im also thinking that something like this would be worth the work and that we definitely will find somebody which would do that.

Just an Idea...

Marry Christmas and happy discussions


Comment from zhenkang on 3 December 2018 at 13:45

Err how many numerous endless discussions do we have to talk about setting up social media accounts for OGF?

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Comment from zhenkang on 3 December 2018 at 13:47

Quoting from Isleno long time ago:

Discord and other chat platforms are not recommended, for a wide range of reasons:

They may necessitate software that might not be accessible to everyone. They may require users to create and manage yet another account. They may make our confusing array of communication tools even harder to navigate. They may draw discussions away from our forum, making it less active and less interesting. They may draw information away from our wiki, making such information harder to find. They may be significantly more prone to arguments and other drama. They may easily be dominated by the least mature, most "bored" users. They may demand more intensive moderation than forums. They may be more distracting and time-consuming than forums. They may be harder to participate in for those with limited English skills.

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Comment from zhenkang on 3 December 2018 at 13:50

And also adding admin's new policy: Please note that before forming any OGF-related group off-site (including a chat group) it is necessary to consult with OGF admin.

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Comment from lars on 3 December 2018 at 13:53

But a chat Platform/group and a Instagram account is a huge difference...

Or do I even have the permission to use any picture/map from OGF?

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Comment from zhenkang on 3 December 2018 at 13:56

For the last question, what do you mean? Are you publishing your stuff to people elsewhere?

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Comment from lars on 3 December 2018 at 14:00

I just would like to share the OGF world with others...

And i know that there would be a lot of people which would love to see such stuff

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Comment from zhenkang on 3 December 2018 at 14:04

...which can lead to many short-time users who only come and left OGF a few days later, leaving a ton of mess for someone to clean up.

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Comment from lars on 3 December 2018 at 14:10

As I said just an Idea..

would be cool, but everything has a bad and a good side and i dont think that it would get THAT popular...

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Comment from Alessa on 3 December 2018 at 16:15

I'm personally in the lean-against camp for copyright reasons. We do presently have a twitter account, so that might be a place to show things off. I'm just not sure who manages it or if admin is even aware of it (I assume so).

What ZK is mentioning about a potential downside is that we go through periods of influx and lull regarding new members. In the years I've been here we've had a couple instances of a new platform or an event that brought a huge wave of users only to have them claim territories, slap down 8 motorways per km2, and then wash out within a month. It's a bit inconvenient, and only one time can I remember it being a group of outright troublemakers. It's not a downside to have new members and frankly we should be more welcoming, but I think some people have a bad taste in their mouths about previous situations.

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Comment from Portopolis on 3 December 2018 at 21:41

Yeah, Youtube, if a video about OGF gets a couple thousand views could bring waves of 12 year olds who will ultimately trash the site and leave. OGF could easily advertse itself to 1000s and while this will bring probably a few Luciano/Leowezy etc. type mappers, maybe even a dozen or who knows even a 100 who are on another level in terms of dedication to mapping and building it will be at the cost of dealing with up to 100s or significantly more bored American children, and a general influx of people who may not add much to the map before leaving. The idea of OGF is simply extremely cool and because of that more attention isn't necessarily going to help this site. Most of the mappers who found OGF as far as I know were already looking for a fictional mapping style site like me. This alone while bringing mappers at a much slower pace will help the world develop more orderly. The only real benefit of an influx is if many of the amazing mappers on OSM decided to transition into OGF. Their are dozens of mappers in OSM it seems who's skill is in another world to say the least and if we could lure some of those people here, I think it would help the site tremendously. I also think their are sites and forums like skyscrapercity and cit-data that have a lot of people who are interested in at least some aspects of OGF, although I don't know if their going to make the jump into fictional mapping, although those are forums literally dedicated to talking about cities.

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Comment from zhenkang on 4 December 2018 at 00:17

@Alessa Quite true about welcoming them, but honestly the problem is when they choose the stay and claim nations, and their nations will turn out to be pretty unrealistic. Which is partly why I don't, and there is also a chance there may not eventually change their nation's characteristics despite numerous warnings. However, there are still those who eventually came to realise the importance of OGF, but these people are very few.

@Portopolis I also like the fact if we instead advertise to the correct audience. Yeah, I hope I get to meet OSM users who mapped those Russian cities; I need some help to create some of Antigo's cities.

About new users, I estimated that out of all users here, only 3-5% are active, or even less than that.

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Comment from The_Cute_Chick on 4 December 2018 at 06:39


Assuming there are about 500 active mappers on OGF, and about 16550 users, the percentage of active mappers out of all OGF users is actually 3%.


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Comment from zhenkang on 4 December 2018 at 06:44

Sad truth. But I think we have only 200 active people here, so actually 1 to 2 percent.

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Comment from CartographerKing on 5 December 2018 at 00:48

It seems now that few people are active; out of many; a social media account wouldn't fix the problem, it might make it worse.

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