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Territory requests - REMINDER

Posted by admin on 23 January 2020 in English (English)

The admin team would like to remind editors of the territory request procedure at https://wiki.opengeofiction.net/wiki/index.php/OGF:Admin_regions

Requests which do not follow the procedure are likely to take much longer to consider. Please help us to help you by making good requests.

Every request this week has failed to indicate the requested territory in the subject line. This makes it hard for individual admins to know if the request is for the continent for which they are responsible.

large-scale editing

Posted by newnw on 22 January 2020 in English (English)

is there any kind of editor I can use for things like ferry routes and other large-scale things (National parks, large forests, rivers, maybe even some long motorways.) I'm just curious if there is because potlatch 2 doesn't work for me and (As you probably know) the default one requires you to zoom in to 1,000 feet scale. is there anything I can do to make these things easier?

Is My Capital's Scale fine

Posted by MOI N on 22 January 2020 in English (English)

In Point Fern I've started to think my scale is too small , so i checked on scale tool and saw that my buildings were tiny and started to rebuild but this envolved more deleting than anything else and i'm wondering wether my new scale is right or not

Point Fern is a English / Arabic Metropolis , stealing the state name of Point Fern, which is Cygagon's capitol .

Histor style: overhaul based on standard style?

Posted by Squizie3 on 20 January 2020 in English (English)

First off: I really want to express my thankfulness on Histor's work on it's own Histor style map. But that being said, I also want to open a debate on the style itself and which direction it could go, which might be controversial: what about a complete overhaul of the Histor style based on the current standard mapnik style? Back in the days, I assume Histor style used to be a derivative of the then standard mapnik style, but with extra features such as ports, railroad differentiation, i.e. all things the standard map style lacks. But then the standard style had a complete redesign, and the Histor style didn't follow and kept the old style. And now, Histor is editing the style to fix the problems the old style had, and which is exactly the reason why mapnik itself changed to its new style too. But the problem with that is, with all respect, the current Histor style seems a bit... amateurish. And that's normal, because the new standard mapnik style probably took a ton of work by a lot of different people to get at the point it is now.

I really think it would be better to go back to the essence of what Histor style was all about: the standard style + all extra features it lacks. Currently, this project has really evolved into a completely different style, in stead of an improved standard style. All work on changing the colour of roads, matching landuses with that, etc. is in a sense really reinventing the wheel. And because making a map that's pleasant to the eye is really a very hard task this will still need a lot of work, all to end up with a map that's just "different" than the standard map, but not "better". And at this point, I think we're still at "worse", which means a lot of people won't use the Histor style as their de facto standard style. If started over with the current standard style as a base, every change on the Histor style will make the map better than the standard map, while now changes only try to catch up with it. This will make it possible for everyone who knows about the existence of Histor style to use it as their de facto standard, because there are no drawbacks in comparison to the original standard style and only real improvements exist.

So I'd really like to open a debate on this. Either Histor style could be kept as it is now, with gradual improvements being made by Histor, or a more thorough redesign using the standard style could be considered. And I know, Histor, you spent lots of time in creating your style and it is still a really useful tool I really want to thank you for. This is absolutely not meant to discredit you, I just want to open a debate to make your style possibly even more useful for more people. And I also know that doing a complete overhaul might be a big undertaking, which you might not want to take up. But luckily, this is just a debate to see what the opinions are.

So please everyone give your opinions about the idea, and Histor, still a big thank you for your work till now and let us know if such an overhaul project would be something you could support or not.

Greetings,

Squizie3

Changing of histor-style - the 2nd

Posted by histor on 17 January 2020 in German (Deutsch)

Here we have some new road-colours - and not more this "not to see"-green for the trunk-roads, if the road is between green landscape. Is this new "#ff69be" (in the colour-table named as "hot pink") too much hot? May be we can make it a little bit lesser dominant. Primary now is "#ffa501" and secondary "ffff01", which means nearly plain yellow. The colour of motorways (blue') and tertiary and lesser roads and pathes are unchanged.

Sure there is some smoothing-work to do (the ref-shields and some pieces over bridges).

The garden-pattern has now colour #77e72f as iiEarth has suggested.

Next step will be a seperate colour for freight-railways. We already have blue for subways, green for commuter-rails, red for hi-speed trains. Can we drop the green for the commuters and use it for freight-rails or did you think, we need a seperate colour for both? And if yes, which?

see [https://opengeofiction.net/#map=16/-37.7101/161.0754&layers=H] as test

Brig: open for embassies!

Posted by Jumbooo on 16 January 2020 in English (English)

Hi everyone,

even if my city is not completely mapped yet, I invite anyone interested in placing the embassy for his/her Country. I'm not planning to create an "embassies quarter" quarter, so feel free to place it wherever you like in the city (just keep them in the central quarters, please). You can freely choose to use an existing building or map a new one.

I only ask you to write here what you are doing, just to keep trace of your work.

In the meantime, every feedback about my mapping of the city would be appreciated.

Happy mapping!

Location: 61,185, 54,613

can someone make trifinia harca again

Posted by newnw on 14 January 2020 in English (English)

I was working on harca and looking around and noticed it was renamed to trifinia for some reason. I don't know how to rename it and am just wondering why it was renamed. hope this is the right place to post this.

200+ conflicts on upload, how to solve them all and not one-by-one ?

Posted by SwissCrusader on 14 January 2020 in English (English)

I need your help, I got stuck with 200+ objects in conflict with my previous upload, for unknown reason. Now I have a large upload I want to send, but JOSM is blocked because of the conflicts. Is there a way to solve them all and tell JOSM "just send my version of everything and overwrite" ? I don't want to lose my mapping but I just can't solve conflicts one by one.

Or is there another solution like deleting the whole zone (let's say a city), upload it as deleted, and re-copy-paste the new data from my faulty OSM file ?

What is the most practical solution to deal with huge amount of conflicts ?

Road naming systems - real world examples

Posted by coshatiuav on 14 January 2020 in English (English)

I thought these colour-coded maps may be worth a share, particularly if your street organization happens to be all over the place at present. For one thing you can see the logic used behind certain terms like "Drive". Also it would be interesting to create some areas within a city with different naming systems, possibly to reflect historical growth and influences.

https://erdavis.com/2019/07/27/the-beautiful-hidden-logic-of-cities/

https://erdavis.com/2019/09/20/the-beautiful-hidden-logic-of-cities-worldwide/

There are of course more examples that can be found with online searches.

How to make these islands look realistic

Posted by Jamie Clumpas on 12 January 2020 in English (English)

Hey guys,

so I've just made these islands in the middle of the Cruzando delta. I've done my best on these, but they still don't really look like anything you might see in real life. Does anyone have any advice on how to spruce them up a bit?

Location: -1.948, 47.988

Update histor-style 1-2020

Posted by histor on 12 January 2020 in German (Deutsch)

It is some years ago, the histor-style is changed the last time. So now let us have an update. First the firmland gets a colour more bright, because with the past colour the map looks too dark. Gardens get an light green. Some new symbols (doctor, veterinary, craftsman) will add to the symbols and in next time some other will be added - mainly in connection with the shipping-lines.

The zoo-symbol is changed (not more the elephant, but a catpaw - from a lion :-) ). Nevertheless I am not sure, if this is the best soloution - may be better is an abstrat pattern (green with points?). We will see.

The green of the trunk-roads is no good colour for this highways. I think, a light blue is better - or darker red? What do you prefer?

In the past some user ask me for a special colour or marking for railway-tracks only for freight use. We have in the histor-style red for the hi-speed rails, green for commuter-rails, blue for the subways and other rails are gray (see here [https://opengeofiction.net/#map=16/-13.5752/39.6951&layers=H]). What significant different colour may be perfect?

Tiles not loading.

Posted by plainoldbread on 10 January 2020 in English (English)

I've seen something weird go on with the site. I can't load any of the tiles, which is a big issue because I wanted to work on my OGF territory. I know some people in the unofficial discord having problems with this, but nobody has reported on the user diaries. I hope this gets fixed somehow, because people need to see the OGF map.

Tilesnotloading

New Atwick

Posted by Mapping Expert on 9 January 2020 in English (English)

Hello to all OGF members. It is a pleasure to greet you in this year 2020.

I regret to inform you that I will rebuild Trinity Island, at my own discretion. I am looking to give you a more New England style, comments are welcome.

I also accept that you give me suggestions, plans for the area and others.

Happy mapping - Mapping Expert

Location: -42.094, 161.542

Broom

Posted by Rasmus Rasmusson on 9 January 2020 in English (English)

After many years in which the number of my geofictional projects steadily grew (I have several more outside OGF) and the available time I have for them slowly decreased, I decided that I needed to do some cleaning and rearranging, so 2020 is becoming the Year of the Broom.

For OGF this meant that I wanted to focus on one territory instead of two remote and unrelated ones, and perhaps having a smaller total of land would help too, so I proposed to the admins to swap places and abandon my SW Archantan country Xsegunis (formerly Řots) in exchange for the often unoccupied UL040 as an expansion of my other country Wyster in Eastern Uletha. This has happened thus.

As for Xsegunis/Řots: I have no idea what will happen to it but if you see it slowly disappearing, it doesn't mean that I have left OGF myself. I made back-ups of the OGF Wiki pages of these countries btw, so if they need to be deleted, this is now possible.

In the meantime my focus is on expanding and developing Wyster. I already wrote the addition of a piece of land the size of Slovenia (I think) into its history and made a set-up of the new counties and infrastructure. I also decided to use the opportunity to review the grammar of Wystrian; so far nothing has changed but perhaps I will alter the verb system. For the rest I have no big plans.

Scale Concerns

Posted by Lithium on 8 January 2020 in English (English)

I'm making a city but I'm worried about the scale in it, is there some kind of rule of thumb I should know? I apologize this seems to have double posted and I don't know why.

Location: -46.875, 149.469

Uploading .ogg file to wiki gives error.

Posted by Panzerbyte on 8 January 2020 in English (English)

Good day,

As I've wanted to upload my national anthem after seeing that .ogg files are the supported sound files for the wiki, I came across an error after uploading it. It gives an 'Internal error' with the body: [2228c731d0c62bd38a1d1408] 2020-01-08 06:52:37: Fatal exception of type "Error", after wanting to visit either the file (link to wiki) itself or the list of uploaded files.

A proposal for blue countries.

Posted by theruler on 7 January 2020 in English (English)

Hello, there.

I have a proposal for blue countries and wiki article stuff.

Blue countries tend to have a mix of every culture, nearly non-coherent, non-consistent.

Therefore i think we could make them non-canon, and instead for describing specific places included in the blue countries as "fictional" countries. Countries not on the map, but used on the wiki to make things more sense.

Commonia, for instance, is a mix of every native tongue new users have.

This does not make sense if there is a german country describing a chinese district just across the border.

Instead, non-mapped, wiki-filler, and coherent "countries" could be described on the wiki.

  • Theruler

Taking a break from ogf

Posted by Mike's World on 7 January 2020 in English (English)

First, happy 2020 everyone and congrats on another year of ogf. Wow, the last few months are flying and now I have to take my mapping to a halt. There are other things I need to prioritize (grades obviously) and to try to win

-Talent show (doing a comedy skit)

-Futsal tournament

-Science Olympiad competitions

-Getting a girlfriend (part 2)

I wish everyone a farewell and good luck for mapping and the rest of 2020.

-Mike

Manniton: Relocation

Posted by MrManny on 6 January 2020 in English (English)

After my town of Manniton has been relocated to AR120-33j from what is now AR909, I've been fiddling with some infrastructure integration work. I think this has been mostly accomplished by now and I'll resume focusing on continuing to map the ins and outs of Manniton now.

On that note, I have a few general things I should investigate eventually. Comments and propositions on any of these are, of course, welcome.

  • ICAO codes for airports (for this civilian airport)
  • Religion demographics (for this place of worship)
  • Properly mapping public transportation (primarily bus lines; I'll check OSM later for reference)
  • General checklist for what public infrastructure (medical, police, education, administrative, etc.) a town would need to double-check if I got everything covered.

That's it for now. Have a neat 2020, everyone!

-- Manny

Location: -35,755, 148,112

I must change the configuration of Adalia?

Posted by XxdaniX on 4 January 2020 in English (English)

When I start Adalia I have planned English states at the south and Hispanic states on the north.But the proprietary of Espetrantio,in my south border is mapping in Spanish, while the proprietary of Elixity, in the north one ,is mapping in English. Viewing this situation, it makes more sense have the Hispanic zones in the south and the English at the north. While I don't have much mapping, if it exists a moment to change the nouns is now.

What do you think? I must change it?

Location: -42,498, 125,318
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